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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
I think your focus upon birthplace is mistaken. In these days of airline travel, a mother can birth a child anywhere and have the kid back at home within a day or two at the most. It's absurd. To me, it is a matter of where and how the child is raised, growing, learning, working, and playing amid other Americans. One can do that even in an embassy compound to a degree, at least when very young. It's a distinction of acculturated loyalty.

Hence, Obama is disqualified regardless of his place of birth because of his rearing in Indonesia, whereas Cruz is clearly American. We all recognize that in their respective characters. That was the point of the requirement in the first place.

190 posted on 01/17/2016 8:05:57 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: Carry_Okie

‘To me, it is a matter of where and how the child is raised, growing, learning, working, and playing amid other Americans. One can do that even in an embassy compound to a degree, at least when very young. It’s a distinction of acculturated loyalty.’

I agree. But we need clear boundries. So ... one part of vetting a candidate would be to hear public web-conferencing discussions with a candidate’s family members and religious leaders. The entire process could be codified in a manual referred to in the Constitution.

But that kind of vetting will require massive public deliberation and should focus more on the candidates themselves, such as their opinions while in college [another thing Obama kept secret].

For Cruz right now we need something simple and pragmatic which we can expedite, something narrow that causes little or no harm, and possibly even an expiration date to keep the Constitution from being cluttered if legislators prefer.

‘Hence, Obama is disqualified regardless of his place of birth because of his rearing in Indonesia, whereas Cruz is clearly American. We all recognize that in their respective characters. That was the point of the requirement in the first place.’

Right. But then you get into the hair splitting of original intent and the public’s lack of trust in the judiciary — no legal ruling can heal the wound.


191 posted on 01/17/2016 9:26:04 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (1000 muslim migrant gang-rapists in Germany -- Trump helped trigger protests.)
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