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If we accept anything less than original intent then it means that a Beirut-born individual with US citizenship and perhaps his foreign national parent (turned US citizen) with one parent citizen at birth could obtain the presidency. I see a problem ahead in light of how fast and easy immigration has been managed this last decade or so.


6 posted on 01/11/2016 5:39:06 AM PST by magna carta
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To: magna carta
I see a problem ahead in light of how fast and easy immigration has been managed this last decade or so. If we accept anything less than original intent, it means that a Beirut-born individual with US citizenship and perhaps his foreign national parent (turned US citizen) with one parent citizen at birth could obtain the presidency.

Could also allow the offspring of an American who joined ISIS and birthed a child w/ say, a Syrian, to claim eligibility for office.

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Cruz was born in Canada to a Canadian father......and a native-born American mother......thus making Cruz a dual Canadian-American citizen. Texans elected him to the US Senate not knowing he was a dual Canadian citizen.

It was not until a 2013 Dallas Morning News article that Cruz acknowledged his Canadian citizenry publicly. In 2014, the senator publicly renounced his Canadian citizenship altogether.

Cruz consistently depicted himself as "latino" Yet his family bgrnd indicates only his father is Spanish; his mother is of two nationalities, Italian and Irish from each of her parents.

Cruz ran in Texas as a latino (which has a wealth of latino votes). Cruz even convinced the Senate biographer that he was the first latino elected to the Senate (besides Rubio).

As the immigration issue grew negative in the world of politics, being known as a latino has lost its luster.

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WIKI The 1803 edition of William Blackstone's Commentaries on the Laws of England, perhaps the leading authority for the delegates to the Constitutional Convention for the terms used in the Constitution, noted that the natural born citizen clause is "a means of security against foreign influence" and that "[t]he admission of foreigners into our councils, consequently, cannot be too much guarded against."

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NOTE At the time, King George, and lordly England, were the colonists' boogeymen. It was feared the wealthy Brits could surreptitiously buy their way into our new country's councils and wreak havoc.

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OLD THINGS SEEM SUDDENLY NEW AGAIN Cruz's wife is a Goldman Sachs exec.

Mrs Cruz served on the North American Union task force, and supported their report called---'Building a North American Community."

The North/South border effort was sponsored by the Council on Foreign Relations in association with the Canadian Council of Chief Executives and the Consejo Mexicano de Asuntos Internacionales.

Translated into English, that means forget US sovereignty....just eradicate US borders.

Canada is under the jurisdiction of England.

24 posted on 01/11/2016 5:58:27 AM PST by Liz (SAFE PLACE? A liberal's mind. Nothing's there. Nothing can penetrate it.)
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To: magna carta

A go example was pointed out last night using the Queen of a ME country. She too was born in US. Do the prince and princess of that country qualify to be President. They do if you use the Cruz/Obama scenario.
Time to get a ruling from the SCOTUS. Overtime. None of this standing BS this time. No more unsettled law


34 posted on 01/11/2016 6:06:13 AM PST by hoosiermama
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To: magna carta

If we accept anything less than original intent then it means that a Beirut-born individual with US citizenship and perhaps his foreign national parent (turned US citizen) with one parent citizen at birth could obtain the presidency. I see a problem ahead in light of how fast and easy immigration has been managed this last decade or so.


Spot on! Talk about a precedent setting scenario! Where could it end up? Pakistani-born? Syrian-born? Chinese-born? This issue will surely come back to bite us (you know where) if it is not resolved in a smart, legal way.


58 posted on 01/11/2016 7:19:56 AM PST by Freedom56v2 (`)
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