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Report: As Obama administration knowingly armed Islamic State in Syria, Joint Chiefs passed US
Israel Matzav ^ | 12/29/15 | Carl in Jerusalem

Posted on 12/29/2015 4:46:52 PM PST by Nachum

It's come to this: The Obama administration - and in particular the CIA - knowingly armed Islamic State terrorists in Syria. Okay, take it with a grain of salt. It came from Seymour Hersh.
Barack Obama’s repeated insistence that Bashar al-Assad must leave office – and that there are ‘moderate’ rebel groups in Syria capable of defeating him – has in recent years provoked quiet dissent, and even overt opposition, among some of the most senior officers on the Pentagon’s Joint Staff. Their criticism has focused on what they see as the administration’s fixation on Assad’s primary ally, Vladimir Putin. In their view, Obama is captive to Cold War thinking about Russia and China, and hasn’t adjusted his stance on Syria to the fact both countries share Washington’s anxiety about the spread of terrorism in and beyond Syria; like Washington, they believe that Islamic State must be stopped.

The military’s resistance dates back to the summer of 2013, when a highly classified assessment, put together by the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) and the Joint Chiefs of Staff, then led by General Martin Dempsey, forecast that the fall of the Assad regime would lead to chaos and, potentially, to Syria’s takeover by jihadi extremists, much as was then happening in Libya. A former senior adviser to the Joint Chiefs told me that the document was an ‘all-source’ appraisal, drawing on information from signals, satellite and human intelligence, and took a dim view of the Obama administration’s insistence on continuing to finance and arm the so-called moderate rebel groups. By then, the CIA had been conspiring for more than a year with allies in the UK, Saudi Arabia and Qatar to ship guns and goods – to be used for the overthrow of Assad – from Libya, via Turkey, into Syria. The new intelligence estimate singled out Turkey as a major impediment to Obama’s Syria policy. The document showed, the adviser said, ‘that what was started as a covert US programme to arm and support the moderate rebels fighting Assad had been co-opted by Turkey, and had morphed into an across-the-board technical, arms and logistical programme for all of the opposition, including Jabhat al-Nusra and Islamic State. The so-called moderates had evaporated and the Free Syrian Army was a rump group stationed at an airbase in Turkey.’ The assessment was bleak: there was no viable ‘moderate’ opposition to Assad, and the US was arming extremists.

Lieutenant General Michael Flynn, director of the DIA between 2012 and 2014, confirmed that his agency had sent a constant stream of classified warnings to the civilian leadership about the dire consequences of toppling Assad. The jihadists, he said, were in control of the opposition. Turkey wasn’t doing enough to stop the smuggling of foreign fighters and weapons across the border. ‘If the American public saw the intelligence we were producing daily, at the most sensitive level, they would go ballistic,’ Flynn told me. ‘We understood Isis’s long-term strategy and its campaign plans, and we also discussed the fact that Turkey was looking the other way when it came to the growth of the Islamic State inside Syria.’ The DIA’s reporting, he said, ‘got enormous pushback’ from the Obama administration. ‘I felt that they did not want to hear the truth.’

‘Our policy of arming the opposition to Assad was unsuccessful and actually having a negative impact,’ the former JCS adviser said. ‘The Joint Chiefs believed that Assad should not be replaced by fundamentalists. The administration’s policy was contradictory. They wanted Assad to go but the opposition was dominated by extremists. So who was going to replace him? To say Assad’s got to go is fine, but if you follow that through – therefore anyone is better. It’s the “anybody else is better” issue that the JCS had with Obama’s policy.’ 

But what's more shocking is what the Joint Chiefs decided to do about it.
The Joint Chiefs felt that a direct challenge to Obama’s policy would have ‘had a zero chance of success’. So in the autumn of 2013 they decided to take steps against the extremists without going through political channels, by providing US intelligence to the militaries of other nations, on the understanding that it would be passed on to the Syrian army and used against the common enemy, Jabhat al-Nusra and Islamic State.

Germany, Israel and Russia were in contact with the Syrian army, and able to exercise some influence over Assad’s decisions – it was through them that US intelligence would be shared. Each had its reasons for co-operating with Assad: Germany feared what might happen among its own population of six million Muslims if Islamic State expanded; Israel was concerned with border security; Russia had an alliance of very long standing with Syria, and was worried by the threat to its only naval base on the Mediterranean, at Tartus. ‘We weren’t intent on deviating from Obama’s stated policies,’ the adviser said. ‘But sharing our assessments via the military-to-military relationships with other countries could prove productive. It was clear that Assad needed better tactical intelligence and operational advice. The JCS concluded that if those needs were met, the overall fight against Islamist terrorism would be enhanced. Obama didn’t know, but Obama doesn’t know what the JCS does in every circumstance and that’s true of all presidents.’

Once the flow of US intelligence began, Germany, Israel and Russia started passing on information about the whereabouts and intent of radical jihadist groups to the Syrian army; in return, Syria provided information about its own capabilities and intentions. There was no direct contact between the US and the Syrian military; instead, the adviser said, ‘we provided the information – including long-range analyses on Syria’s future put together by contractors or one of our war colleges – and these countries could do with it what they chose, including sharing it with Assad. We were saying to the Germans and the others: “Here’s some information that’s pretty interesting and our interest is mutual.” End of conversation. The JCS could conclude that something beneficial would arise from it – but it was a military to military thing, and not some sort of a sinister Joint Chiefs’ plot to go around Obama and support Assad. It was a lot cleverer than that. If Assad remains in power, it will not be because we did it. It’s because he was smart enough to use the intelligence and sound tactical advice we provided to others.’


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: assad; dempsey; dia; flynn; isil; isis; jcs; jointchiefs; obama; obamaisis; obamasyria; pentagon; seymourhersh; syria
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To: rodguy911
Both ozero and the hildabeast have lots of jeopardy in Benghazi. They knowingly let an openly gay man, Chris Stevens, be put in charge of a huge CIA smuggling op while he wandered around the Mideast running his mouth off to anyone and everyone. Bad move in the Mideast.They aren't as tolerant about gays as the US.Even those who had turned to islam as Stevens had.

Probably why Gowdy was assigned the pit bull job.My guess is the regime knew he would put on a great show but in the end nada would happen. Thereby making hillary look strong, mighty, and able to overwhelm our supposed best, Gowdy. He's a Marco supporter so that tells you all you need to know. He’s with the gang of eight and all the other rinos.He never was on our side. My guess is even in the House it’s not likely the regime would allow anyone who could actually get to hillary to be in charge.Gowdy is compromised. We just don’t know how or why.

21 posted on 12/30/2015 11:28:05 AM PST by rodguy911 (Sarah Palin our secret weapon --Home of the free because of the brave.)
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To: Nachum

Too bad we don’t have a congresscritter willing to put it all on the line, stand on the floor and tell America what is going on.


22 posted on 12/30/2015 2:44:21 PM PST by Eagles6 ( Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? If not us then who?)
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To: rodguy911

Gee, it’d be too bad if Trump found out about this...he might use it against Hillary.


23 posted on 12/30/2015 4:23:01 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: piytar

prayers for their safety.


24 posted on 12/30/2015 7:34:51 PM PST by huldah1776
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To: Nachum

Original article from link at source...pretty long but if anyone is interested...

http://www.lrb.co.uk/v38/n01/seymour-m-hersh/military-to-military


25 posted on 12/30/2015 7:37:54 PM PST by huldah1776
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To: rodguy911

True .. but he seems to focus a lot on our military.


26 posted on 12/30/2015 9:16:36 PM PST by CyberAnt ("The fields are white unto Harvest")
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To: The Final Harvest

Exactly juot like every op the regime does it has tentacles all over the place. ROE’s worse than ever, no bomging anywhere near citizens, get rid of anyone who refuses to fire on US citizens on and on. It’s endless how the thugocracy plotted to destroy the military. Budget cuts,kill off ammo,bombs, don’t help the kurds,endless.


27 posted on 12/31/2015 11:11:40 AM PST by rodguy911 (Sarah Palin our secret weapon --Home of the free because of the brave.)
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To: The Final Harvest

Seems that way but the overall goal is complete and final destruction of the US every facet possible,our way of life, without anyone catching on to what they are doing.


28 posted on 12/31/2015 11:13:20 AM PST by rodguy911 (Sarah Palin our secret weapon --Home of the free because of the brave.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Happy New year bud!
I think Trump will do a real number on the hildabeast just by being fearless.He’s not afraid to tell anything about her as long as its true.The Clinton deadpool is now fair game as well.


29 posted on 12/31/2015 11:15:28 AM PST by rodguy911 (Sarah Palin our secret weapon --Home of the free because of the brave.)
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To: rodguy911

I totally agree with your analysis.


30 posted on 12/31/2015 11:42:27 AM PST by CyberAnt ("The fields are white unto Harvest")
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To: rodguy911

Oh yes; they think they will be able to accomplish this before anybody really notices what’s going on.

I DON’T THINK THAT’S WORKING OUT FOR THEM. The Christians and the Conservatives have exposed a lot of it .. and more and more I see people suddenly realizing we’re in real trouble.

Happy New Year to you and your family.


31 posted on 12/31/2015 11:45:24 AM PST by CyberAnt ("The fields are white unto Harvest")
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