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To: volunbeer
In my opinion, we're going to have war, broke or not. Too many in power want it and I see the world continuously inching toward it. I truly/sincerely hope I'm wrong.

I think it will start with Turkey, though Iran certainly can't be ruled out. The thing that has me most worried are 60+ B61 nuclear bombs of ours sitting in Turkey. Turkey's F-16s can deliver these, plus we've moved moved F-15 fighters to Turkey - I'm guessing the F-15s can carry them as well.

So Russia has countered with S400 missiles putting the AFB in Turkey (housing these) within range. Putin must have his forces on short notice looking hard at aircraft formations leaving Turkey.

It wouldn't take much to set off the entire load of fireworks in this area of the world. Worse, we've got idiots like Erdogan, ISIS, and Obama playing with fire.

One other indicator for war that I see, the invasion of the west by men of fighting age in the hundreds of thousands. Germany just top 1 million immigrants - IIRC.

11 posted on 12/10/2015 9:40:47 PM PST by amorphous
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To: amorphous
The thing that has me most worried are 60+ B61 nuclear bombs of ours sitting in Turkey.

I'm wondering how much *reliable* defense-in-depth we have guarding them: or if we've outsourced security for them the same way we did in Benghazi.

Obama, as an Affirmative Action President (TM), has been coddled too long to realize that there are some things that smiling a 52-tooth shit-eating grin and pointing at a video maker, cannot cover up.

25 posted on 12/10/2015 10:21:57 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: amorphous

“The thing that has me most worried are 60+ B61 nuclear bombs of ours sitting in Turkey. Turkey’s F-16s can deliver these”

They have been removed. And even when they were there, they were not given to that nation. They were stored there, under US military control, and the nation in the sharing program had their planes configured with the right hardware, the pilots trained, etc.
At best Turkey was a voting member on their use from there, but they didn’t “have” nukes.


30 posted on 12/10/2015 11:43:27 PM PST by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble minded asses overthrown,,,")
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To: amorphous

The entire situation is caused by the leadership in the US and Europe. Progressives. They have a character flaw that makes them progressive. They never acknowledge mistakes. So they are forced to always progress forward and forget their past. World war is just one of our problems right now. They refuse to admit they were wrong about global warming and so they progressed into climate change. Next up possibly climate disruption. At any rate, they are destroying our existing economy and our energy industries because they cannot admit they were wrong. They continue to drive up our debt because they refuse to admit their policies are wrong. They continue to demand Obamacare enrollment because they refuse to admit it has failed. And eventually their refusal to admit they are wrong will lead to all out war with Russia. A war that will kill all of us. A war that Russia has been prepping two decades for ever since they got rolled by the Progressive cronies.


34 posted on 12/11/2015 1:45:14 AM PST by justa-hairyape (The use of the name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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