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1 posted on 12/03/2015 12:28:00 PM PST by JoeSeales
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To: JoeSeales

I assume everyone knows his daughter is an observant Jew.


2 posted on 12/03/2015 12:29:22 PM PST by Borges
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Donald Trump is in no position to make deals with the capital of Israel, Jerusalem, Jerusalem belongs to the God of Israel.

Who does Donald Trump think he is ? God ?

Donald Trump just lost the nomination.

The God of Israel will have the last word over Jerusalem, not Donald Trump.


10 posted on 12/03/2015 1:22:15 PM PST by American Constitutionalist ( because the Constitution matters.)
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To: LS

Trump Ping


21 posted on 12/03/2015 1:41:45 PM PST by StoneWall Brigade (MARANATHA)
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To: RoosterRedux; Albion Wilde; hoosiermama; Amntn; RitaOK; flaglady47; HarleyLady27; MinuteGal; ...

Trump ping.


25 posted on 12/03/2015 1:45:29 PM PST by Jane Long (Go Trump, go! Make America Safe Again :)
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To: JoeSeales

Trump’s forming a negotiation strategy. Trump wants everything on the table and nothing known about his tactics. He doesn’t ‘give’ things away before he gets to the table. Have faith - Trump loves Israel... and he wants a deal that both sides walk away from happy.


40 posted on 12/03/2015 2:12:45 PM PST by GOPJ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKkckaZO4fw - bravest truth telling Muslim women in the world...)
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To: JoeSeales

We are disappointed with Mr Trump. Equivocation on such clear- cut moral issues is beneath the man - and raises serious concerns, right or wrong, about his commitments ( as we have seen right here in this thread). It looks like we have better candidates


42 posted on 12/03/2015 2:16:28 PM PST by faithhopecharity (Brilliant, funny, and incisive Tagline coming to this space soon.....)
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To: JoeSeales
From what I have read about it this speech was a disaster, full of anti-Jewish stereotypes. I have always defended Donald Trump from ludicrous claims that he is a Nazi (I still do), but he has completely lost me. His approach to Israel and the Middle East is just more "moderate" country club "realism." The guy probably has never even heard of chrstian Zionism in his entire life.

When I recall how FReepers unanimously (yes, including me) rejected Rudy Giuliani because he was too liberal, the idea that Trump can now do know wrong (despite arguably being even less conservative than Rudy) absolutely astounds me.

Why it isn't obvious to everyone here that we simply have no alternative to Ted Cruz astounds me. American conservatives seem to be becoming more like the relativistic ethnolators of the European right.

43 posted on 12/03/2015 2:26:23 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (The "end of history" will be Worldwide Judaic Theocracy.)
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They cheered Dubya when he promised in 1999 that he would move the embassy to Jerusalem.

He lied. He never even considered it.

51 posted on 12/03/2015 2:43:11 PM PST by montag813
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Very good speech. I assume many don’t understand what Trump’s Israel strategy is, but he made it perfectly clear to me.

What a breath of fresh air not to be pandered to and immediately ask for money afterwards.


54 posted on 12/03/2015 2:59:47 PM PST by Read Write Repeat (Not one convinced me they want the job yet)
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To: JoeSeales

Finally had the energy to watch this. It was a very good speech, struck me as totally honest in his views.


74 posted on 12/03/2015 4:07:34 PM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: JoeSeales

The TDS is strong in this thread. If your goal is actual peace and not silly pandering, Trump is 100% correct. He wants to talk to BiBi and see what is possible. There is nothing wrong with that.

George Bush promised to move the embassy in 1999 when he was a candidate and then found out doing so would jeopardize national security and ignored it. He was pandering to rich donors in 1999 just like Marco and Rubio and all the other tools. It’s all bullshit.

Trump doesn’t blow sunshine up anyone’s ass. He’s going to call it straight. Some people can’t handle that. And at the end of the day, the only way a peace agreement gets done is if both sides come to the table in good faith and agree to concessions. It’s unlikely but give Trump credit for at least having an open mind to impossible things.

Here’s the dirty little secret about Israel. The muslim population within Israel is breeding at much higher rates than the Jews. In a generation or two, the jewish majority may be at risk. Some painful concessions to form a two state solution may be the only long term strategy that preserves the jewish state, except for some kind of apartheid South Africa solution which would be untenable long term.


75 posted on 12/03/2015 4:27:15 PM PST by springwater13
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Like the Blacks and to a lesser extent the Hispanics the Jews have marginalized themselves by clinging to Democrats. The problem Jews have in a Trump nomination is that it was always their money rather than their numbers that they brought to the table. Now they are faced with a candidate most unfortunately see as an enemy and their money is useless. Trump doesn’t need their money and Jews are packed into places that don’t need their votes.


97 posted on 12/04/2015 4:34:51 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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