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American Christian responsibilities toward Muslim refugees (Vanity)
Free Republic | 11-24-2015 | Tom Hoefling

Posted on 11/24/2015 11:20:47 AM PST by EternalVigilance

We Americans are a kind and compassionate mostly-Christian people. History backs up that claim. However, our enemies have perfected the art of using our kindness and compassion against us.

At no time has this been demonstrated more vividly than today, when Muslim and Leftist propagandists use the horrible plight of children and women (a plight Leftists and Muslims brought about) to try and tug on our heartstrings so that we will naively admit millions more Islamists into our country, a large majority of whom perfectly fit the profile of those who have committed thousands of vicious terrorist attacks around the world for the last half century, ie young, healthy, military-age young Muslim men.

Yes, God gave you a heart, one that should be tender and sympathetic toward the oppressed.

But He also gave you a brain, and the duty to protect your own.

"But if anyone does not provide for his own, and especially for those of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever."

-- I Timothy 5:8



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KEYWORDS: immigration; refugees
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1 posted on 11/24/2015 11:20:47 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance

Wouldn’t that responsibility be to conquer the Holy Lands and vanquish the heathen savages?


2 posted on 11/24/2015 11:23:50 AM PST by Paladin2 (my non-desktop devices are no longer allowed to try to fix speling and punctuation, nor my gran-mah.)
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To: EternalVigilance

I am flat out of cheeks to turn.


3 posted on 11/24/2015 11:25:35 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: EternalVigilance

I note that in the parable of the Good Samaritan, he voluntarily used his own money to take care of a beaten individual he found on the side of the road.

He was not compelled by the government of the massive Roman Empire to accept and house tens of thousands of fully healthy and protected Philistine young men being imported to Judea as a political act, so the Romans could more easily divide and rule the Jews using their own imported citizenry.


4 posted on 11/24/2015 11:27:34 AM PST by PGR88
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To: EternalVigilance
He also gave you a brain

My dad always said, "The Good Lord doesn't expect us to be stupid."

5 posted on 11/24/2015 11:29:44 AM PST by zlala
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To: PGR88

Indeed. In recent days I have argued quite a bit with naive people, mostly women, who are bent on admitting these people to our country.

Using your money, not theirs, of course. And the borrowed money of our grandchildren who haven’t even been born yet.

I ask them if they’re willing to pay for these people to come here, and to be responsible for their conduct. Nothing but *crickets* ensue, of course.

Regular Robin Hoods, they are.


6 posted on 11/24/2015 11:32:07 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: zlala

Your dad was a very wise man.


7 posted on 11/24/2015 11:32:46 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: Smokin' Joe

I understand.

Of course it doesn’t go without saying that the command to personally turn the other cheek in no way suggests an obligation to turn our children over to vicious murderers and terrorists in order to be killed or made slaves.

Right?


8 posted on 11/24/2015 11:34:57 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: Paladin2

How many times do we have to do that?


9 posted on 11/24/2015 11:35:47 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance

A Letter by John Quincy Adams on Immigration

The Letter from John Quincy Adams

Sir—I had the honor of receiving your letter of the 22nd April, enclosing one from your kinsman, the Baron de Gagern, and a copy of your printed report, which I hope and have no doubt will be useful to those of your countrymen in Germany, who may have entertained erroneous ideas, with regard to the results of emigration from Europe to this country.

The United States ‘has never held out any incitements to induce the subjects of any other sovereign to abandon their own country, to become inhabitants of this.’

It was explicitly stated to you, and your report has taken just notice of the statement, that the government of the United States has never adopted any measure to encourage or invite emigrants from any part of Europe. It has never held out any incitements to induce the subjects of any other sovereign to abandon their own country, to become inhabitants of this. From motives of humanity it has occasionally furnished facilities to emigrants who, having arrived here with views of forming settlements, have specially needed such assistance to carry them into effect. Neither the general government of the union, nor those of the individual states, are ignorant or unobservant of the additional strength and wealth, which accrues to the nation, by the accession of a mass of healthy, industrious, and frugal laborers, nor are they in any manner insensible to the great benefits which this country has derived, and continues to derive, from the influx of such adoptive children from Germany.

But there is one principle which pervades all the institutions of this country, and which must always operate as an obstacle to the granting of favors to new comers. This is a land, not of privileges, but of equal rights. Privileges are granted by European sovereigns to particular classes of individuals, for purposes of general policy; but the general impression here is that privileges granted to one denomination of people, can very seldom be discriminated from erosions of the rights of others.

Emigrants from Germany, therefore, or from elsewhere, coming here, are not to expect favors from the governments. They are to expect, if they choose to become citizens, equal rights with those of the natives of the country. They are to expect, if affluent, to possess the means of making their property productive, with moderation, and with safety;—if indigent, but industrious, honest and frugal, the means of obtaining easy and comfortable subsistence for themselves and their families.

Immigrants ‘come to a life of independence, but to a life of labor…’

They come to a life of independence, but to a life of labor—and, if they cannot accommodate themselves to the character, moral, political, and physical, of this country, with all its compensating balances of good and evil, the Atlantic is always open to them, to return to the land of their nativity and their fathers.

To one thing they must make up their minds, or, they will be disappointed in every expectation of happiness as Americans. They must cast off the European skin, never to resume it. They must look forward to their posterity, rather than backward to their ancestors; they must be sure that whatever their own feelings may be, those of their children will cling to the prejudices of this country, and will partake of that proud spirit, not unmingled with disdain, which you have observed is remarkable in the general character of this people, and as perhaps belonging peculiarly to those of German descent, born in this country.

That feeling of superiority over other nations which you have noticed, and which has been so offensive to other strangers, who have visited these shores, arises from the consciousness of every individual that, as a member of society, no man in the country is above him; and, exulting in this sentiment, he looks down upon those nations where the mass of the people feel themselves the inferiors of privileged classes, and where men are high or low, according to the accidents of their birth.

‘No government in the world possesses so few means of bestowing favors, as the government of the United States.’

But hence it is that no government in the world possesses so few means of bestowing favors, as the government of the United States. The governments are the servants of the people, and are so considered by the people, who place and displace them at their pleasure. They are chosen to manage for short periods the common concerns, and when they cease to give satisfaction, they cease to be employed. If the powers, however, of the government to do good are restricted, those of doing harm are still more limited. The dependence, in affairs of government, is the reverse of the practice in Europe, instead of the people depending upon their rulers, the rulers, as such, are always dependent upon the good will of the people.

We understand perfectly, that of the multitude of foreigners who yearly flock to our shores, to take up here their abode, none come from affection or regard to a land to which they are total strangers, and with the very language of which, those of them who are Germans are generally unacquainted. We know that they come with views, not to our benefit, but to their own—not to promote our welfare, but to better their own condition.

We expect therefore very few, if any transplanted countrymen from classes of people who enjoy happiness, ease, or even comfort, in their native climes. The happy and contented remain at home, and it requires an impulse, at least as keen as that of urgent want, to drive a man from the soil of his nativity and the land of his father’s sepulchres. Of the very few emigrants of more fortunate classes, who ever make the attempt of settling in this country, a principal proportion sicken at the strangeness of our manners, and after a residence, more or less protracted, return to the countries whence they came.

‘The multitude of foreigners who yearly flock to our shores, to take up here their abode, none come from affection or regard to a land to which they are total strangers.’

There are, doubtless, exceptions, and among the most opulent and the most distinguished of our citizens, we are happy to number individuals who might have enjoyed or acquired wealth and consideration, without resorting to a new country and another hemisphere. We should take great satisfaction in finding you included in this number, if it should suit your own inclinations, and the prospects of your future life, upon your calculations of your own interests.

I regret that it is not in my power to add the inducement which you might perceive in the situation of an officer under the government. All the places in the department to which I belong, allowed by the laws, are filled, nor is there a prospect of an early vacancy in any of them. Whenever such vacancies occur, the applications from natives of the country to fill them, are far more numerous than the offices, and the recommendations in behalf of the candidates so strong and so earnest, that it would seldom be possible, if it would ever be just, to give a preference over them to foreigners.

Although, therefore, it would give me a sincere pleasure to consider you as one of our future and permanent fellow citizens, I should not do either an act of kindness or of justice to you, in dissuading you from the offers of employment and of honorable services, to which you are called in your native country. With the sincerest wish that you may find them equal and superior to every expectation of advantage that you have formed, or can indulge, in looking to them, I have the honor to be, sir, your very obedient and humble servant,

John Quincy Adams


10 posted on 11/24/2015 11:36:36 AM PST by donaldo
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To: donaldo

Absolutely outstanding.

I’m a huge fan of John Quincy Adams. He was one of the most brilliant leaders in American history.

Sure wish that the same conditions existed today that he described in this letter.


11 posted on 11/24/2015 11:46:20 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance

There aren’t any responsibilities.


12 posted on 11/24/2015 11:48:05 AM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: EternalVigilance
...the command to personally turn the other cheek in no way suggests an obligation to turn our children over to vicious murderers and terrorists in order to be killed or made slaves.

Absolutely correct.

13 posted on 11/24/2015 11:53:51 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: EternalVigilance
This was all started when Steven Colbert made the following statement:

"If you want to know if somebody's a Christian, just ask them to complete this sentence: 'Jesus said I was hungry, and you gave me something to eat. I was thirsty, and you gave me something to drink. I was a stranger and you....' And if they don't say 'welcomed me in' then they are either a terrorist, or they're running for president," Colbert joked.

He is paraphrasing Matthew 25, of course. If the passages before and after are read in context, it is clear that Jesus is telling us how to get in to heaven (or conversely how not to get to heaven)

Let me ask Mr. Colbert: Do governments go to heaven, or individuals?

Steven Colbert wants the US government to blindly take in large groups (of which a fraction wants to do us great harm), then forcibly confiscate funds from everyone to keep them, then ignore how they conduct themselves once they are here.

If Mr. Colbert wants to pony up the several million dollars per person to bring in a refugee under his personal care, feed them, employ them and house them for life... and be personally responsible for their behavior... I'd say he is being a good Christian. But that isn't his intention.

The individual act of mercy and sacrifice is a beautiful thing. Mr. Colbert is vainly misusing/misrepresenting Jesus to push his liberal agenda.

14 posted on 11/24/2015 12:01:18 PM PST by kidd
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To: Paladin2

Lat’s not cell ‘em robbing, raping, murdering illegal aliens . . . .

let’s call ‘em . . . .

let’s call ‘em . . . .

Uh . . uh . . . .

“refugees”! . . . . yeah

That’s the ticket . . refugees.


15 posted on 11/24/2015 12:04:58 PM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: kidd

Yep. You got it.


16 posted on 11/24/2015 12:12:10 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance

The only real question is “What do these people bring with them that the Republic or its Citizens need or want?”

We have no Frontiers to populate. Our industries are not crying out for semi-skilled and unskilled labor. They have no talents or special skills we need. Their ‘culture’ is a tribal horror show.

Even other Moslem countries don’t want them.

These people destroyed their own country. They should not be allowed to come here nor should our government be providing them aid. If private individuals want to contribute, good for them. But they should not be allowed to come here as threat to public safety and a burden on the taxpayer.


17 posted on 11/24/2015 12:51:25 PM PST by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: Little Ray

I agree.


18 posted on 11/24/2015 12:53:17 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance

I’ve tried to bring up in these cases that if we can afford to bring in Muslim immigrants who pose a security risk, there must not be any Americans in need of anything - housing, welfare, food, medical care, translation ... so they can’t then bring up crumbling infrastructure or under-funded food banks.


19 posted on 11/24/2015 1:06:07 PM PST by tbw2
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To: Little Ray

When does “not casting pearls before swine’ come into play?


20 posted on 11/24/2015 4:21:38 PM PST by aimhigh (1 John 3:21)
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