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The long, sordid antivaccine history of Donald Trump
ScienceBlogs ^ | September 15, 2015 | Orac (David H. Gorski, MD, PhD, FACS)

Posted on 09/15/2015 1:44:46 PM PDT by EveningStar

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To: EEGator
From the article blog...

Someday I'd like to hear why blogs, in and of themselves, are such bad things.

BTW, I never heard of this guy or his blog until today.

41 posted on 09/15/2015 2:15:22 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: who knows what evil?

What are you talking about?


42 posted on 09/15/2015 2:16:55 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: longtermmemmory
The Don hates puppies?


Son Eric and wife Lara with their puppy. How does the beagle act with The Don?
43 posted on 09/15/2015 2:17:13 PM PDT by BigEdLB (Congress will have blood on their hands if anything happens because of the Iran appeasement)
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To: miss marmelstein

I’m loving Trump more — the immunization culture is the statist/BIG PHARMA monsters who make monster money. And kids die. Man on the street knows nothing of the garbage they’re poisoning and killing people with.

TISK - TISK - TISK — stupidity is TOO costly.

MRS. ESOPMAN


44 posted on 09/15/2015 2:17:35 PM PDT by esopman (Blessings on Freepers Everywhere and Their Most Intelligent Designer)
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To: Fai Mao
Except he isn’t pro-abortion and hasn’t been since 2009

Use your brain and try to figure out what I was trying to say in response to her statement. Hint: I wasn't trying to say Trump was pro-abortion. In fact I could be talking about any candidate.

45 posted on 09/15/2015 2:17:43 PM PDT by Starstruck (I'm usually sarcastic. Deal with it.)
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To: EveningStar

Wow.

I think Trump is in the running to surpass “It’s Bush’s fault!” for everything that’s wrong everywhere and at all times.

It’s all Trumps fault that the Titanic sunk and his feet stink!


46 posted on 09/15/2015 2:18:17 PM PDT by samtheman (2014: Voters elect Repubs to congress... 2015: Repubs defund NOTHING... 2016: Trump/(Cruz or Palin))
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To: esopman

I’m glad you like The Donald. I take the other side, though. I went through the polio epidemic (as did Trump) and respect vaccines. I think Trump sometimes listens to his kids who have no memory of polio...


47 posted on 09/15/2015 2:19:19 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: I'd like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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To: Starstruck

Unfortunately, we have to choose a candidate on the majority of their opinions - not the minimum. I wish Trump/Cruz et al were perfectly aligned with my thoughts but they’re not. Bummer, if you ask me.


48 posted on 09/15/2015 2:21:38 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: I'd like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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To: EveningStar

They aren’t evil, just often wrong...like this one.

FWIW, I always look forward to your SciFi/Fantasy/Movie posts and lists.


49 posted on 09/15/2015 2:22:53 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: EveningStar

There is a theory out there on this and one that may some validity. It has to do on how vaccines as made. Years ago the switch was made using animal cultures to human tissue cultures, something along those lines. After this switch it appeared that Autism seemed to become more prevalent.

Any Freepers that have more knowledge of this please explain in more detail.


50 posted on 09/15/2015 2:23:55 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: EEGator

RE: “From the article blog...

“Referring to his and his wife Melania’s 22-month-old son Baron, Trump continued: “What we’ve done with Baron, we’ve taken him on a very slow process. He gets one shot at a time then we wait a few months and give him another shot, the old-fashioned way. But today they pump the children with so much at a very young age. We do it on a very, very conservative level.”

Mr. Trump is absolutely correct in his response, and conservative vaccination schedule vaccination for his child.

There is much misunderstanding of the vaccination issue.
The US government has acknowledged that vaccines Can kill and injure children and adults.
The US government runs the National Vaccine Injury fund that has awarded 3 BILLION dollars to families who have had their children die or get injured.
The criteria of evidence is very high for a hearing and any claim payment.
Vaccine manufacturers are exempt from liability.

In the 1990’s pharma and medical providers got the idea that they could make vaccination more convenient and profitable by combining up to SIX different vaccines per shot.
Other countries observed significant injuries from aggressive vaccination schedules and have since adopted a more conservative approach.

The current aggressive vaccination schedule is suspected of overwhelming some children’s immunological system, and result in neurological damage, such as autism spectrum disorder. Pediatricians are gradually acknowledging this concern, and as a result, they recommend a conservative vaccination course of shots just to be on the safe side.
Under current US vaccination guidelines, a child receives 49 doses of 16 different vaccines by the time they reach 6.

Prediction: Holy hell is going to break out as we gradually discover the extent of what the pharma-medical-FDA complex knew and concealed about vaccine safety problems, and their negligent push for our aggressive vaccination schedule.
1 out of 32 boys three years and under exhibit autism spectrum disorder. Many instances of profound autism.
It’s not just greater rate of identifying and diagnosing children. School systems are overwhelmed with providing care for autistic special needs children, which are increasing in numbers never seen in pevious decades.


51 posted on 09/15/2015 2:25:52 PM PDT by MarchonDC09122009 (When is our next march on DC? When have we had enough?)
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To: EveningStar
Oh Noes Trump is not gonna sign any bills that FORCE people to take vaccines against their will, OH THE HUGE MANATEE

I would rather have a so called "Anti-vacciner" who would never sign a mandatory government forced shot than some liberal scuzz bucket who would either:

1. Crony tied with a vaccine company forcing vaccines for a kickback.

2. Think that in order to save their federalized government healthcare that a vaccine could reduce costs so everyone has to take one and damned the risks for the individuals for the benefit of the collective.

52 posted on 09/15/2015 2:26:25 PM PDT by GraceG (Protect the Border from Illegal Aliens, Don't Protect Illegal Alien Boarders...)
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To: esopman

We should go back to the days of no vaccinations. I heard it was awesome.


53 posted on 09/15/2015 2:27:08 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

That was a serious question, so I looked it up. It came out in the news last years. Now, they have backed off the claim.

I do know personally of a case where the doctor advised against giving a baby the cocktail of vaccinations it was due.


54 posted on 09/15/2015 2:28:00 PM PDT by odawg
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To: Arm_Bears

[ Ultimately, vaccination/immunization should be the choice of the parents. ]

BINGO!

Informed CONSENT is the CORNERSTONE OF CIVILIZED HEALTH CARE!

FORCING ANY TREATMENT AGAINST ONE’S WILL IS THE PUSH OFF THE SLIPPER SLOPE.


55 posted on 09/15/2015 2:28:04 PM PDT by GraceG (Protect the Border from Illegal Aliens, Don't Protect Illegal Alien Boarders...)
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To: EEGator
Fewer shots over a broader time period seems sensible to me.

Now how are the pharmaceutical folks supposed to make any money with that kind of attitude? Tsk.

56 posted on 09/15/2015 2:28:04 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.com)
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To: EveningStar

Oh, no! Noooooooooooooooooooooo!


57 posted on 09/15/2015 2:28:40 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: miss marmelstein

He said they should be spread out, not giving so many at one time.


58 posted on 09/15/2015 2:29:32 PM PDT by muggs (Hope and Change = Hoax and Chains)
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To: GraceG

Amen.
Pharma-MD-FDA should take much more conservative approach in reviewing the vaccine benefit / risk, higher standard of testing safety testing before approval, and a less aggressive course of vaccine dose administration.
And they All ought to be transparent and liable for any negligence.


59 posted on 09/15/2015 2:32:33 PM PDT by MarchonDC09122009 (When is our next march on DC? When have we had enough?)
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To: muggs

That may be very well true. I get the flu shot most years not that I’ve ever had the flu. But I was told it cuts down on colds which I occasionally get.


60 posted on 09/15/2015 2:33:04 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: I'd like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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