Sweet dreams are made of this
Who am I to disagree?
Posted on 09/07/2015 2:18:27 PM PDT by z taxman
A few days ago when asked about the couragous stand of Kim Davis, Trump essentially came out in support of gay marriage. "Its the law of the land," he said. “I hate to see her being put in jail." Well, isn't that swell Trumpy, but he added “I understand what they’re doing. It would be certainly nice if she didn’t do it." Lets get this straight, while bold leaders like Ted Cruz, Rand Paul and Mike Huckabee are coming out in support of Kim Davis and her religious stand of conscious, Trump is busy kowtowing to the gay mafia, turning an erroneous Supreme Court interpretation into the "law of the land". Of course this was brought to light immediately on FR. However, while there was some grumblings, most of those onboard the Trump train either glossed over the facts, became defensive and the usual (lack of) intelligent discussion took place.
When questioned about Obamacare at the first GOP debate August 6, Trump rambled and perpexingly came out in support of the single payer program they have in Canada and Scotland: "As far as single payer, it works in Canada. It works incredibly well in Scotland." Yes Donald, single payer is working so well in Canada that they basically bustling over the border just to get the treatment they need here. Sure, Trump went on to check all the anti-Obamacare boxes in his response, yet it is the muddled up way he did so that ought to cause consternation. One has to wonder if it wasn't Obama himself who put the healthcare changes that are destroying the country forward, if it wouldn't be Trump himself who would do it. You see Donald, when offering a conservative critique of Obamacare, you don't start by praising the healthcare systems of Canada and Scotland. If he sought to make a conservative statement on the issue, he sounded more 'severely conservative' than anything else.
Now the big issue that propelled Trump (so far) is illegal immigration. To be sure, illegal immigration has been a giant problem for decades and kudos ought to be given to the man for bringing the discussion to the forefront of this presidential election. That said, his recent history on this topic is just as muddled as the other issues I have mentioned. Now, when bringing up Trump's liberal past, many Trumpians are quick to say 'that was years ago! The man has changed.' OK, sure I'll bite. However only three years ago, Trump hammered Romney for being to harsh on illegal immigrants, referring to Romney's stance on self-deportation for the illegals:
“He had a crazy policy of self deportation which was maniacal,” Trump told the conservative website NewsMax. “It sounded as bad as it was, and he lost all of the Latino vote. He lost the Asian vote. He lost everybody who is inspired to come into this country.” Trump went on to say, "The Democrats didn’t have a policy for dealing with illegal immigrants, but what they did have going for them is they weren’t mean-spirited about it,” Trump added. “They didn’t know what the policy was, but what they were is they were kind.” Does this sound like the rhetoric of a conservative on illegal immigration? Mind you, no, this was not 10 years ago, this was as recent as the last election, when he had already had his Damascus moment and turned toward conservatism, supposedly.
Recently Trump has come on the populist side of things in regard to taxes, even Paul Krugman has come out in support of Trumps tax ideas... yes that Paul Krugman. In a Times op-ed, Krugman wrote that Trump is correct to embrace a tax hike on the rich and speak out in favor of universal healthcare. He added that conservatives — who are now slamming Trump’s proposals — were wrong to warn about the ill economic impacts of those policies ahead of the 2012 election. Keep in mind that Trump did once also propose the largest tax hike in U.S. history. Now Trump's tax hike idea isn't based on the wealthy carte blanche, but the small group of hedge fund managers who use a loophole to pay a lower tax rate on investment gains instead of income. However, his rhetoric is still jarring, "You've seen my statements. I do very well. I don't mind paying a little more in taxes. The middle class is getting clobbered in this country," he said. The statement boils down basically, tax the rich, they can afford it. Very liberal sounding. A better idea would be to lower the income tax tax to mirror the rate of investment gains. Or here's a novel idea, a flat tax!
All these recent examples of Trump's murky brand of conservtism ought to put anyone who is truly on the right on edge. Delving further back into Trump's past raises even more questions: support for automatic gun ban, support for the bank bailouts, support for the auto industry bailouts, support for abortion (hell, even this year he came out supporting Planned Parenthood saying that abortion constitutes hardly a fraction of what they do), support for Hillary (calling her very capable in 2007, and donating hundreds of thousands to her controversy ridden charity), Barack Obama ("What he has done is amazing," "He's a champion") and the Democratic Party.
So the question for conservatives is when is enough enough? Will we sell out and cave in on our values just because we want to see a wall built? If that's the case, the true price of the wall cant be quantified in dollars and cents, but in the corruption of our conservative principles.
A very wise man once said, when you come to a fork in the road, take it.
The most direct route is straight up the middle.
Damn the torpedoes, destroy the treasonous GOPe!!
Go, Trump, GO!!
You can’t always get what you want
You can’t always get what you want
But if you try sometimes you just might find
You just might find
You get what you need
AW YEAH!
there you go bro!
Sweet dreams are made of this
Who am I to disagree?
jzoot?
Enough is when President Trump and VP Cruz take the oath of office.
Close the borders, enforce immigration laws, simplify tax code, improve business environment.
No one will ever have the perfect candidate. He played both sides as a business person. Right now, Trump is pushing the correct issues. Some may disagree (not that I care).
As far as I’m concerned,anything that Trump can do to Zot the GOPe, is okay in my book.
I’m done with them. I will never,ever, vote for a GOPe candidate. As far as I’m concerned they are no different than the dems.
Ooh a personal attack.
First sign of a disingenuous poster.
Everything you say is factual. However, I believe he has changed in the last few years on the immigration problem
Because of the increase in crime by illegals. It has increasingly appalled many. We have enough of our own homegrown scum. We do not need it crawling over the border.
These statements he has made is the reason I prefer Ted Cruz. However, Cruz is not climbing up as wished.
We may need to support Trump as a better alternative to Hillary or Joe or ??
Sweet dreams indeed, and I don’t disagree.
I know everyone wants Sarah for department of energy ( & she would be excellent, I’m sure) but I really want her for the VP position instead.
>>Damn the torpedoes, destroy the treasonous GOPe!!
That’s what its all about. We have to rid ourselves of the Progressives in both parties (or at least render them powerless) before America can right itself again.
The GOPe is just arranging deck chairs on the Titanic while proclaiming that we need to stop worrying about the gash in the hull and focus on the iceberg that is 5 miles behind us.
If you cannot understand Trump’s popularity with folks you obviously know nothing about politics.
You can through all of those points around. It won’t matter. Unlike Yeb and Krispy Kreme and Marco and others of the same ilk, Trump is willing to fight. He says what he wants. He changes his mind. He is willing to say some things don’t work.
I personally am supporting Ted Cruz but I could live with Trump
IMMIGRATION...nothing else matters. Kim can spend the next 15 months in jail, as far as I’m concerned, if we’re able to CLEAN OUT THIS COUNTRY.
...then I’ll worry about Kim.
Agreed.
If they’re not paid GOPe operatives, what are these anti Trump trolls so afraid of exactly?
Trump would be light years better than any of the RINOs in the line up and that’s why he’s ahead in both the Black and Hispanic votes
So your answer is a YEB! coronation? Sorry, z taxman, it is Trump or Jeb. Cruz has NO chance. Gaffe-prone Carson will be exposed in time, and is horrible on immigration. Rio-RINO is a GOPe darling like Jeb.
I like and concur with your analogy. Even though Cruz is my preferred, I think we can’t get him so let’s use the many positives of the one we can get—unless the Democrats pull a rabbit out of the hat. I can’t help thinking The Despot in the WH has a trick in his bag for this election.
Soros is in the house.
When decades of liberalism is rolled back, then it will be enough.
When all the illegal immigrants are returned to their crapholes, then it will be enough.
When Political Correctness (which is nothing more than language fascism) is not only no more, but actually mocked, then it will be enough.
Until then, it is not enough.
Oh, and this?
This is the vocabulary of a liberal.
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