Posted on 08/29/2015 11:03:49 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Donald Trump’s confrontation with Jorge Ramos at a press conference in Iowa earlier this week confirmed what we already knew about the two men. Romos, a news anchor at Univision and Fusion, can be aggressive with interview subjects and Trump can be rude to reporters. But coverage of the event revealed what many have never acknowledged: a schism between the worldviews of Latino press and their non-Hispanic colleagues. Journalists of all stripes reported the same basic facts: Ramos asked questions about his immigration policies without being called on. Trump allowed* Ramos to be ejected, and later allowed him to be let back in.
Emmy-winning NPR journalist María Hinojosa spoke for more Latino reporters that just herself when she criticized the mainstream media’s treatment of the Ramos-Trump feud on MSNBC’s All In with Chris Hayes. She cited ethnic hypocrisy over the response and highlighted the phrase that Trump used to evade Ramos’ questions, right before the Latino journalist was ejected: “go back to Univision.” Hays, who is a non-Latino caucasian journalist, acknowledged a “culture gap” in a “media that is not dominated by Latinos.” He also recognized that journalists normally stick by each other through thick and thin.
“You would kind of expect journalists to close ranks around a fellow reporter who was thrown out,” Hays said.
“I appreciate what you said Chris, which is that you’re trying to understand the culture gap,” Hinojosa responded. “There is a culture gap. Latinos are not present in the mainstream media, and to that statement Trump made which -- was ‘go back to Univisión ,’ or ‘go back to Univision,’ -- for Latinos, as I’m hearing in my reporting, that’s hate speak. And that actually opens the door for people to say that to me because I was born in Mexico.”
For Latino journalists and many millions of Spanish-language TV viewers, Jorge Ramos is not just a “reporter.” He is one of the leading voices in the Latino media and symbol of a generation of progress by ethnic minorities trying to break into mainstream news. He is “the Latino Walter Cronkite .” (A comparison made more apt by the Anglo journalist’s outspoken attitude to some controversial issues ). Hinojosa questioned how mainstream media figures might have reacted if Jorge Ramos had been an African-American or a non-Latino white.
“What’s distressing to me --- and it saddens me to have to say this -- but if we were to change the scenario and [NBC news anchor] Lester Holt or esteemed New York Times columnist Charles Blow were asking a question and that security guard took on those esteemed African-American journalists the way that Jorge Ramos was taken on, I would like to see what the reaction would be then. What if it was Katie Couric [...] asking a question about Trump’s positions on women, that some people believe are sexist?”
Charles Blow himself devoted a column to Trump following Ramos’ ejection titled “ Enough is Enough .” He vowed boycott Trump, saying that the majority of the candidate’s actions were not newsworthy and that the mainstream media were complicit in Trump’s actions at the conference.
“A member of the media who dared to raise a truly substantive issue, even out of turn, was dismissed and removed. And yet the band played on. The live coverage continued. In that moment, I was disgusted at Trump’s contempt and the press’s complicity in the shallow farce that is his candidacy. Trump is addicted to press, but the press is also addicted to him, and the entire spectacle is wide and shallow,” Blow wrote.
Hopefully, Blow and Hinojosa’s comments will help explain why criticisms of Jorge Ramos fell flat for Latino journalists. They came across as xenophobic, routinely downplayed Ramos’ stature in the media and the fact that he is a U.S. citizen.
"I think Ramos acted like an illegal alien and got treated like one," Fox Host Jesse Watters said , in an analysis that read eerily similar to those of white-supremacist websites. "He cut the line, was disruptive, and then was deported and then Trump let him back in. Isn’t that his policy?"
“I understand that for Ramos, a legal Mexican immigrant, this is a very personal issue. But there's a difference between being tough and just being rude,” Fox News contributor Howard Kurtz wrote in an article titled Why Jorge Ramos Crossed The Line In Confronting Donald Trump .
“This is a very big moment for [Ramos]. This is his 15 minutes of fame. And you can be shocked and stunned and deeply saddened at [Trump’s] immigration policy, but if I’m holding a press conference and you saw a guy trying to get his 15 minutes of fame the night before, you know, and pretending he was Walter Cronkite [...],” MSNBC Joe Scarborough said on his program , Morning Joe, chastising Ramos for speaking out of turn.
You don’t have to be born in Mexico to understand how wrong Scarborough was to accuse Ramos of seeking attention, or care about immigration to understand why Trump the Fox News comments are offense. You don’t even have to know how unimportant Scarborough is compared to Ramos.
Glenn Greenwald
✔ @ggreenwald
Jorge Ramos is roughly one zillion times better known and more
influential than Joe Scarborough... https://twitter.com/jdelreal/status/636511015253987328 …
7:21 AM - 26 Aug 2015
Take political correspondent Kasie Hunt, who is credited for challenging Trump at the Iowa conference and getting Ramos back in the room.
“The reality was that it felt very much like the forced removal of a journalist,” Hunt said.
How do we explain why “deporting” Ramos from the newsroom was a big deal, especially to people outside of journalism and outside of the Latino sphere? We’ve put up videos of the press conference, and of Ramos latter shredding Trump’s position. But the best way to understand what happened in that room is to listen to something that Hinojosa weeks before the Iowa event. You can watch her full Ted Talk below.
“As a little girl, I understood the importance of journalism and reporting and media, but I never saw myself there [...] My stories didn’t appear. We were invisible. I was invisible from the media narrative. No one in the reporting that I saw looked like me [and] looked like my family, so I began to think that maybe somehow my life -- my story -- was less valuable. Less important,” she says in the Ted Talk .
On Chris Hays’ program, Hinojosa concluded her criticisms of Trump with some consejos .
“There is a saying in Spanish ‘te sale el tiro por la culata,’ which means that things backfire on you.”
*Trump said at the time that he didn’t throw Ramos out and even the National Association Of Hispanic Journalists gave him the benefit of the doubt when looking at the live footage. It’s pretty clear , however, that Trump did throw him out when you look at other camera angles.
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Why should I shive a git what a top latino urinalist thinks about anything? Just another freeloading maggot with a big mouth. Look at how well the “latina judge with a compelling life story” is doing on the SCROTUS. She’s a clown.
This is one reason why Trump is so very valuable to the cause of free speech. Every other politician in America, without exception, would attempt to "clarify" his remarks. And some would go even further by then apologizing.
I doubt if Trump will clarify, let alone apologize. He is showing the country that it's okay to be politically incorrect. He is setting a bold new tone.
Jorge’s refusal to wait his turn is emblematic of most Mexicans attitudes towards all of our laws. They believe they have the right to enter our country anytime they feel like it. They don’t have to comply with our rules or laws.
Hate speech: anything a liberal doesn’t want to hear.
Ramos really care for Undocumented immigrants? Did he ever rise his voice for the brutal treatment received the Central Americans and Cubans by the Mexican authorities when they tried to cross Mexico to reach U.S. in their quest for freedom and better opportunities?
I cannot recall any presidential election in my lifetime (I’m 65) that has been upended as quickly and completely as has this one. Trump has had a tremendous impact in a very short period of time.
...and we are loving EVERY minute of it!!!!....
Go Trump/Cruz 2016!!! Attorney General: Trey Gowdy!!!
Mexico’s illegals laws tougher than Arizona’s
By Jerry Seper
The Washington Times
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/may/3/mexicos-illegals-laws-tougher-than-arizonas/print/
You should be measured in the same way you measure others.
Mexican President Felipe Calderon denounced as “racial discrimination” an Arizona law giving state and local police the authority to arrest suspected illegal immigrants and vowed to use all means at his disposal to defend Mexican nationals against a law he called a “violation of human rights.”
But the legislation, signed April 23 by Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer, is similar to Reglamento de la Ley General de Poblacion — the General Law on Population enacted in Mexico in April 2000, which mandates that federal, local and municipal police cooperate with federal immigration authorities in that country in the arrests of illegal immigrants.
Under the Mexican law, illegal immigration is a felony, punishable by up to two years in prison. Immigrants who are deported and attempt to re-enter can be imprisoned for 10 years. Visa violators can be sentenced to six-year terms. Mexicans who help illegal immigrants are considered criminals.
The law also says Mexico can deport foreigners who are deemed detrimental to “economic or national interests,” violate Mexican law, are not “physically or mentally healthy” or lack the “necessary funds for their sustenance” and for their dependents.
“This sounds like the kind of law that a rational nation would have to protect itself against illegal immigrants — that would stop and punish the very people who are violating the law,” said Rep. Steve King of Iowa, ranking Republican on the House Judiciary subcommittee on immigration, citizenship, refugees, border security and international law.
True....Trump has upended the normal campaign route....but, his campaign has yet to be upended.
They keep throwing everything they’ve got at him....and, it’s only going to get worse.
Manufactured issues (race/sexism, etc) will be a daily barrage, at Trump.
Is there anyone on their side that is actually attractive?
Sheesh...
Ya know... “El Donaldo está racisto grande”
Fue a Ramos a quien le salió el tiro por la culata, Mis. Hinojosa. Ramos should had respected the rights of the other journalists and wait his turn, being the star of Univision does not entitles him to special privileges. Trump can answer any questions and mop the floor with Ramos.
For does who speak Spanish and want to know the truth about the experience of Illegals migrants in Mexico.
https://www.facebook.com/rafaelalejandro.hernandezreal/videos/1628088854120036/
If it weren’t for the 42 million+ illegals here, there wouldn’t be a market here in the US for TV outlets like Univision or this “top latina journalist”.
She does not speak for me. She has no clue about our Constitution, that is supposed to give us the tools to succeed, regardless of race. Problem is, proper assimilation does not happen under illegal immigration along with the left ignoring the Constitution, all in the name of their unConstitutional power grab.
I really do hope Trump is serious about illegal immigration.
CGato
Man—Trump is really living in their heads rent-free.
They just can’t get over this.
The minorities are depending that people will back down and apologize upon being called racist.
Their greatest fear is that white people may stop giving a damn about being called racist. They fear Trump’s attitude might spread.
Recall the story of "The Emperor's New Clothes", and the effect of one small boy saying the truth out loud.
Of course, criticizing the murdering, torturing, beheading criminal drug cartels in her OWN country will get her tortured, raped, murdered and beheaded, so I guess I understand her shooting off her mouth about everything BUT the most important issue in Mexico, behind the safety north of the US border.
Sit down and shut up, Maria, ye wee cackling hen.
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