VANITY: What's the atmosphere in downtown St. Louis?

Vanity | 8/11/15 | Head On

[HeadOn]

I love the Cardinals. My problem is that our vacation is next week, August 17 through 21, and Ferguson has erupted again.

We are ready to drop some serious coin on good baseball tickets and a nice downtown hotel, but I'm not sure I want to do that, considering what happened (again) this weekend.

All you St. Louis FReepers - what's it like near the stadium lately?

[ShadowAce]

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[schaef21]

Hey Headon.

I live in St. Louis. Downtown/Stadium is 7-8 miles from Ferguson. Just about everything going on there is isolated to that area and shouldn’t be a problem for you. I live 4 miles south of Ferguson in a mixed neighborhood.... there are no issues at all here, people are just going about their business.

It is mostly out-of-town rabble-rousers coming in.

You’ll be absolutely fine where you will be staying.

Hope you see some Cardinal wins!!

[left that other site]

One of my dearest girlfriends lives alone in a little house just outside of Ferguson. Fortunately, there is an interstate that divides her neighborhood from the “bad” area.

She also says that the problems are being caused by “outsiders who are being bussed in”

[Uversabound]

Love Baltimore.

never go back there again!

[skoobedoo]

I havent actually been downtown (I live west of STL) for some time, but I work in the County and all reports I have seen of trouble have been north of STL in Ferguson itself.
Even driving through on I-270 just north of Ferguson, as far as I am aware, is no issue as the troubled area is south of you at that point.
You may see some protesting near the stadium - they have chosen that venue in the past - but it likely wouldnt amount to much.
All in all, the problems have been focused upon a small area and not spread out generally through STL.
Personally, though, I would plan on avoiding the Metro-Link and drive wherever you are going.

[HeadOn]

Thanks for your time and reassurances.

Go Cards! Whoop the Giants!

[lurk]

The Cardinals and Busch III are a super-massive cash generating machine for the city. Do you think the city is going to permit that machine to get disrupted? Do you think 43,000 devout fans are going to let a few protesters get between them and their team?

[ken5050]

The NL Central is amazing..Cards, Bucs, and Cubs..all gonna be beating up on each other.

Cards front office and farm system are amazing..Grichuk comes out of nowhere...last year, Wacha...

[ETL]

Bobby Bare - Streets of Baltimore:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6R2YpvH0OSU

I sold the farm to take my woman where she longed to be

We left our kin and all our friends back there in Tennessee

I bought those one way tickets she had often begged me for

And they took us to the streets of Baltimore

Her heart was filled with laughter when she saw those city lights

She said the prettiest place on earth is Baltimore at night

Oh well a man feels proud to give his woman what she’s longing for

And I kind of liked the streets of Baltimore

Well I got myself a factory job I ran an old machine

I bought a little cottage in a neighborhood serene

Yet every night when I came home with every muscle sore

She would drag me through the streets of Baltimore

Well I did my best to bring her back to what she used to be

But I soon learned she loved those bright lights much more than she loved me

Now I’m a going back on that same train that brought me here before

While my baby walks the streets of Baltimore

Yes my baby walks the streets of Baltimore

Songwriters
HOWARD, HARLAN / GLASER, TOMPALL

Bobby Bare - Streets Of Baltimore Lyrics | MetroLyrics

[Truth29]

What about the arrests and state of emergency in St. Louis proper:http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2015/08/st_louis_declares_state_of_eme.html

[HeadOn]

I never said I was stupid. I just asked what the weather was like in downtown St. Louis. I’m gonna be on vacation. I don’t want to mess with ANY foolishness, supervised or otherwise.

[PrincessB]

That was the St. Louis County government which is different from the St. Louis City government. The city is not part of the County. Outside of the Quick Trip/shooting area and the police station in Ferguson, there isn’t much going on. You could probably go to lunch in parts of Ferguson and not know it’s the same “Ferguson.”

[gubamyster]

Hopefully the Cardinals will sweep the Pirates in this series starting tonight & the atmosphere will be great.

Go Cards!!!

[JimRed]

She also says that the problems are being caused by “outsiders who are being bussed in”

"Bussed in" as in being given bus tickets for scheduled bus lines, or as in charter buses paid for by Soros and company? The armed "Oath Keepers" who showed up to protect a favored blogger/journalist should be meeting those buses, silently taking photos and videos of the contents. That would result in an attack or two from the troublemakers and maybe derail their plans before they could get into place to cause real harm.

[left that other site]

I honestly do not know which kind of “bussed in” my friend meant.

However, if the 2012 Presidential elections in my corner of South Florida are any indication, it would be the Soros Variety. I saw it with my own eyes here.

[ETL]

The communist groups that almost always show up for these things and soon begin organizing them are The Revolutionary Communist Party and Workers World Party. Both have various offshoots and front groups. Although I haven’t looked into it, I’m sure they have launched some new fronts to deal with this and similar situations.

[TADSLOS]

If it's safe enough for the Griswolds, it's safe enough for you.

[left that other site]

Of that i have no doubt! :-)

[ETL]

They're often there as themselves also, as opposed to just their various front groups. At a few of these relatively recent events I've seen placards with the "RCP" (Revolutionary Communist Party) logo at the bottom.

For what it's worth, the 1992 LA/Rodney King riots were instigated by the Revolutionary Communist Party...

From David Horowitz's FrontpageMag.com /DiscoverTheNetworks.org:

"Throughout its history, one of RCP's [Revolutionary Communist Party] principal objectives has been to foment civil unrest in the United States. The most notable example of such efforts occurred on April 29, 1992, when RCP members looted and trashed the downtown and government districts of Los Angeles, triggering the infamous Rodney King riots. During the days immediately preceding the violence, RCP -- which maintained close ties to the L.A. gangs known as the Crips and the Bloods -- had circulated throughout South Central Los Angeles a leaflet featuring a statement by RCP National Spokesman Carl Dix, titled 'It's Right To Rebel' -- a quote popularized by Mao Zedong.

Encouraged by Dix, RCP activists helped lead the riots that would leave 58 people dead, more than 2,300 people injured, some 5,300 buildings burned, and $1 billion in property damaged or destroyed. On the ten-year anniversary of the rioting, RCP member Joseph Veale fondly recalled the violence as 'the most beautiful, the most heroic civil action in the history of the United States.'"
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6197
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Here's the original source for the Van Jones (Obama's selection to be his "Green Jobs Czar") quote about the time he spent in jail following the Rodney King/LA riots (Jones was arrested in "peaceful" protests in San Fran). It was in a 2005 interview he did with East Bay Express. They of course (what else?) claim he "renounced his rowdy Black Nationalist ways" since then (yet he's calling for "complete revolution" in Aug 2009! ...):

But in jail, he said, "I met all these young radical people of color -- I mean really radical, communists and anarchists. And it was, like, 'This is what I need to be a part of.'" Although he already had a plane ticket, he decided to stay in San Francisco. "I spent the next ten years of my life working with a lot of those people I met in jail, trying to be a revolutionary." In the months that followed, he let go of any lingering thoughts that he might fit in with the status quo. "I was a rowdy nationalist on April 28th, and then the verdicts came down on April 29th," he said. "By August, I was a communist."

http://www.eastbayexpress.com/gyrobase/the-new-face-of-environmentalism/Content?oid=1079539&showFullText=true