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This Morning In Waco
The Aging Rebel ^ | August 7, 2015

Posted on 08/08/2015 8:09:05 AM PDT by don-o

Waco might not get away with it.

So far it has been impossible to know exactly what all it is that Waco has spent the last 83 days hiding because that’s the nature of official secrecy in an institutionally corrupt Dogpatch run by Jack S. Phogbound.

For the last 83 days Waco has been hiding something, maybe many things, about the Twin Peaks Massacre last May 17. For the last 83 days the case has been a black barrel full of question marks.

Right out of the gate, it certainly seems obvious as sunrise that the Waco Police, the McLennan County Sheriff’s Office, The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the Texas Department of Public Safety, the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission, and the Texas Parks and Wildlife Department knew what might happen in advance and either encouraged or failed to prevent an apparent ambush of a dozen or so Bandidos by some unknown number of Cossacks. Or vice versa. It is obvious that the cops knew in advance because they erected pole cameras around the crime scene before the crimes happened. And then after the crimes happened they kept the video evidence secret. And that has led to speculation that has been at best informed and at worst half baked.

Something Happened

One recurring version of what happened, popularized by the Washington Post and the Houston Chronicle, is that the Bandidos came in hot while the Cossacks greeted them as Samoset and Squanto greeted the Pilgrims. Then there was some shooting by somebody and nine men were killed and at least 18 were wounded. All of this bloodshed was recorded by dozens of dash cams, security cams, body cams and cell phone cams as well as the pole cams and most of that footage remains officially secret.

The Post/Chronicle version is that the Bandidos lit the Cossacks up. According to the Post/Chronicle, Cossacks named “Richie” “then Diesel, then Dog” died. An alternative version argues that between seven and a dozen Bandidos were “surrounded and attacked before they could get off their bikes or turn off their ignitions” A Bandido named Manny “Candyman” Rodriguez was “shot first as punches were thrown beside him.” In that version someone “reached over the shoulder of a Cossack” and shot Rodriguez “in the head at point blank range.” In that alternative version, unpublished by the Post or Chronicle, Rodriguez was the first man to die.

Virtually none of the forensic evidence has yet been released. So, it is impossible to know if Rodriguez, or Cossacks Richard Matthew “Richie” Jordan II, Danny “Diesel” Boyett or Charles Wayne “Dog” Russell died the way they have been reported to have died. Or if, say, the police killed them.

Covering Up

Immediately after the bloodbath, officials from all seven of the police forces listed above rounded up all the witnesses, seized their vehicles and their cellphones and sealed the crime scene and the area around the crime scene for days. Then the witnesses were intimidated with million dollar bonds and further punished. According to the Post/Chronicle account, Jordan’s stepfather, a Cossack officer named Owen “Big O” Reeves was invited by a Bandido to bring many hungry Cossacks to the Twin Peaks that Sunday for a peace powwow and brunch. The same account portrays Reeves as an instigator of the fight between members of the two clubs. A single source told The Aging Rebel in May that Reeves, “when in jail, attempted to say he was undercover.” There have been impossible to refute accounts that undercover lawmen and contract employees were there and in biker costume when the bloodshed started.

Of course everyone’s good name, including Reeves, could be cleared if only Waco, state and federal officials weren’t so actively engaged in suppressing and potentially destroying evidence and spinning the story to their own advantage. Nobody in Waco seems to give a damn about justice.

Suppressed Evidence

Defense attorneys have tried a couple of strategies to get a look at the actual evidence in the case – the many videos, the autopsies and the forensic evidence. Dallas attorney Clint Broden, for example, subpoenaed video from both the Twin Peaks restaurant and the Don Carlos restaurant on the other side of the parking lot. A Waco judge named Matt Johnson couldn’t find a reason to quash the subpoenas but he did slap Broden and his client, a Scimitar Motorcycle Club member named Matthew Clendennen, with a gag order on June 30.

The McLennan County District Attorney, Abelino “Abel” Reyna had been threatening for weeks to gag defense attorneys who made too much noise. Some lawyers became quiet as little mice but not all. When Broden refused to sit down and shut up Reyna asked his former law partner, Judge Johnson, to silence him. Since this was Waco, Johnson did. Johnson didn’t do it to ensure fair trials for the 177 defendants in the case. He did it as part of a concerted effort to continue to hide whatever it is that everybody in Waco has been hiding for almost three months. Ask Richard Nixon how that worked out for him.

Broden and the attorneys for 16 additional defendants requested what Texas calls “examining trials” for their clients. Examining trials are strategically important for defenders in Texas because they allow attorneys an early look at aome of the evidence. Prosecutors must either “discover” evidence to the accused or let him go. A judge or magistrate decides how much evidence is enough but when the examining trials start there is an excellent chance that at least some of Waco’s secrets will be revealed.

A buffoonish justice of the peace named Walter H. “Pete” Peterson illegally signed the original arrest warrants for the witnesses who were jailed after the Twin Peaks Massacre. Peterson’s conduct was so blatantly illegal that Waco hired him a lawyer But Peterson still planned to preside over all the examining trials – except Clendennen’s because Broden successfully sued to stop that.

This Morning’s News

This morning the official censorship in Waco began to falter. First an appeals court told Judge Johnson to lift the gag order on Broden and Clendennen. The higher court told Johnson he could stall for another week but then Broden and Clendennen must be allowed to talk about the case. Almost simultaneously Peterson announced that he had “changed his mind” and would no longer preside over any of the examining trials. A retired judge named James E. Morgan will decide what evidence the defense attorneys can see.

Nothing really changed today. Broden still can’t speak and 177 people have still been extrajudicially punished for being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

What happened today was a reaffirmation that all of the United States of America, even Texas, even Waco is a part of a nation governed by law, not by corrupt nepotism. Implicit in the ongoing official coverup is the undeniable notion that Waco has had something to hide. As the examining trials unfold America might begin to glimpse what that is. Clint Broden can finally begin to tell the country what he thinks Waco has been hiding sometime next week.

Eventually the secrets that have been hidden and the lies that have been told might be exposed.


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To: Nep Nep

” you get the freedom to associate with whom you please”

My parents told me ‘you are known for the company you keep’.


61 posted on 08/08/2015 9:45:06 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator

The argument you appear to be making is that the firing of hundreds of rounds into a crowd, killing nine, then arresting 170 people on scene, charging those individuals using fill-in-the-blank documents and setting a bond of $1 million each, and afterwards imposing a total information blackout, is a lawful and appropriate police response... to a fight in a parking lot.

If any part of this summary of your argument is inaccurate, please be specific and explicit on which elements of the argument you disagree with.


62 posted on 08/08/2015 9:54:21 PM PDT by Nep Nep
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To: Nep Nep

“The argument you appear to be making is that the firing of hundreds of rounds into a crowd, killing nine, then arresting 170 people on scene, charging those individuals using fill-in-the-blank documents and setting a bond of $1 million each, and afterwards imposing a total information blackout, is a lawful and appropriate police response... to a fight in a parking lot.”

I said CITE my argument. Don’t just make up a bunch of B.S.


63 posted on 08/08/2015 9:55:37 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Nep Nep
cite /sīt/ verb verb: cite; 3rd person present: cites; past tense: cited; past participle: cited; gerund or present participle: citing 1. quote (a passage, book, or author) as evidence for or justification of an argument or statement, especially in a scholarly work.
64 posted on 08/08/2015 9:56:15 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator

I’ve got a better idea. Why don’t you state your own argument plainly and clearly, instead of calling yourself out for avoiding a direct statement of what you believe is proper and lawful?

Let’s hear it, word for word, so that your position on the matter is clear and unambiguous, and that no person may draw any incorrect inference from the statements you have made on the matter to date.


65 posted on 08/08/2015 10:01:53 PM PDT by Nep Nep
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To: TexasGator

The answer to that has been supplied to you on numerous occasions, from even day (1) of the initial incident.

Are you an Alzheimer's patient?

Perhaps...you do not remember that you are one of those?

That would explain things.

But that's not it, is it? It's more like you are just low-grade TROLL, feigning piss poor memory.

Then again, just maybe the 'dumb act' comes to you sort-a' natural like too...

66 posted on 08/08/2015 10:12:46 PM PDT by BlueDragon (Make Moose Kittens, Not War.)
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To: TexasGator

Nobody else has been saying anything of the sort.

It was you that tried to cram that meme into the overall proceedings, sideways.

Which is yet another example of the kind of behavior (and sick/faulty reasoning) that causes me to hate hate hate your piggy piggy thinking.

Yes, I despise your mind.

It forces me to hate your guts.

67 posted on 08/08/2015 10:18:52 PM PDT by BlueDragon (Make Moose Kittens, Not War.)
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To: chaosagent
I don’t really have a dog in this fight

And there is how we lose the Republic.

68 posted on 08/09/2015 3:48:52 AM PDT by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: BlueDragon; TexasGator
Which is yet another example of the kind of behavior (and sick/faulty reasoning) ....

In case you missed it, TG has no regard for anything but the sound of her own babbling.

She has repeatedly said that Waco 5/17 was an OMG free fire zone. Then yesterday, when called out on that, she at first denied that, then proceeded to say it again. Try to follow THIS. It's confusing, but that is the "mind we are dealing with.

69 posted on 08/09/2015 4:16:01 AM PDT by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: don-o

Can’t help but notice that person disappeared completely when asked to make a straightforward statement of his/her position on the matter, after previously responding in rapid-fire fashion to each and every other comment in our exchange.


70 posted on 08/09/2015 7:14:16 AM PDT by Nep Nep
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To: Nep Nep

” and that no person may draw any incorrect inference from the statements you have made on the matter to date.”

If you have a question or comment about any of my statements, cite my statement and we can discuss it.


71 posted on 08/09/2015 9:03:49 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator

I’m not seeing much point in discussing anything with a person who obstinately refuses to make clear where he stands on an issue.


72 posted on 08/09/2015 9:06:37 AM PDT by Nep Nep
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To: BlueDragon

“Nobody else has been saying anything of the sort. It was you that tried to cram that meme into the overall proceedings, sideways.”

I was responding to the posting that stated that Jesus Delgado Rodriguez didn’t believe in owning guns.


73 posted on 08/09/2015 9:08:58 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Nep Nep

“I’m not seeing much point in discussing anything with a person who obstinately refuses to make clear where he stands on an issue.”

I really didn’t see any ‘discussion’ in your comments to me. What I saw was a bunch of made up B.S.


74 posted on 08/09/2015 9:10:34 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Nep Nep

“Can’t help but notice that person disappeared completely when asked to make a straightforward statement of his/her position on the matter, after previously responding in rapid-fire fashion to each and every other comment in our exchange.”

LOL! You make a post at 1:30 AM and claim I disappeared when I didn’t respond?

Get a life!


75 posted on 08/09/2015 9:12:16 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator

You made a post less than nine minutes prior, so the evidence shows that you bailed immediately upon being asked to state your position in your own terms - which I will note, you continue to ignore.

That being the case, your refusal to state your position on the matter makes it completely reasonable for others to derive your position from your statements. Your position as derived from your statements is as I summarized in the post you are desperately deflecting from.

That position, in turn, is abominable and unconscionable, and begs further questions along the lines of “are you, or someone you know personally, involved in the events under discussion?” - a question I expect to also be deflected from and not answered, if the established pattern of your posts continues unabated.


76 posted on 08/09/2015 9:19:59 AM PDT by Nep Nep
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To: don-o

The only question I have, is it deliberately infuriating, on purpose, or is the person truly that stupid?

I think we are being trolled by an LE sycophant attempting to get people to say things which can be recorded, then used to build 'profiles' to justify further LE snooping, and investigation of the unicorns of TeaParty terrorism.

If they can't find it in nature, they hot-house hydroponic, upside-down tomato plant "it", since we can't be having anyone not going along with Statist agenda.

Anyone involved in that sort of effort should be embarrassed down to the bootlaces when they take a look at your life (if they did).

You are not an outlaw biker (not all bikers who were at Waco that day were so-called 1%'ers either) nor are you any other kind of criminal, nor a supporter of those who commit crime.

Or else you have us all fooled? I don't think so. Nobody could play a game of being real, that long. Which means, you are for real, enough.

You don't have to be perfect either, even if yourself and others have high calling to be perfect.

On the surveillance tape from Don Carlos that was allowed to to be put into public circulation --- just who were the three actors in full-on battle rattle, seen moments after the fireworks began?

They waded into the zone, all three of them packing rifles.

It's too late for gag orders.

Swanton pretty near ruined everything, on that score.

Of course it's not all his fault, perhaps, but it's too late to change anything of the past, now.

77 posted on 08/09/2015 9:37:49 AM PDT by BlueDragon (Make Moose Kittens, Not War.)
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To: TexasGator

Jesus Delgado Rodriguez has never been "around here".

Figure it out.

78 posted on 08/09/2015 9:40:13 AM PDT by BlueDragon (Make Moose Kittens, Not War.)
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To: TexasGator

Drop dead

79 posted on 08/09/2015 9:42:58 AM PDT by BlueDragon (Jane, you ignorant, lying, boot licking slut)
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To: Nep Nep

“You made a post less than nine minutes prior, so the evidence shows that you bailed immediately upon being asked to state your position in your own terms - which I will note, you continue to ignore.”

Yep. I made one from my phone just before hitting the sack.

I don’t stay up just to see if you post to me.


80 posted on 08/09/2015 11:40:49 AM PDT by TexasGator
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