Posted on 08/02/2015 4:53:34 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell
There’s a lot of food for thought in it.
Yes....three groups and it looks pretty much like we’re in the decadent group....I don’t see that changing down the road either, unless all true Americans pay attention and vote...
Already hearing people saying if any other candidate then the one they want they’ll be staying home. Same old tune the Demorats count on.
Was Greenfield alive in the fifties?
Life now is better.
“Life” may be better, but the country is not.
I think that most people who believe that weren't alive in the 1950's.
Did you like having marginal income tax rates of over 90% for people who earned more than 200K? Did you like polio?
Leave it to Beaver was just a TV show.
There weren’t people killing and butchering babies for parts. There weren’t perverts besmirching marriage and calling guys wearing dresses heroic.
I’m also pretty sure rich people had lawyers and accountants even way back then. I doubt you could find anyone who actually paid that rate.
I know people who had polio, and I’ve know people who died of AIDs. Your point? Do you like terrorism?
And, we had Harry Truman, who said, "The only thing new in the world is the history you do not know."
Actually, I am an historian, and you are a fool or a liar. Nice chatting with you.
Carroll Quigley further defined barbaric civilizations to include those making up the Pakistani-Peruvian Axis.
We’ve had abortion, homosexuality, illegitimacy and a host of other social pathologies since the dawn of humanity.
For most of that period, we recognized them as depraved and did not celebrate them.
Yes. The 50’s were an era in which morality was still a dominant cultural influence. The issue is not whether there was sin.
This article makes the salient point that elitists are all in with moral relativism, the common man is not.
Well, I think that you’re a very special historian. People shouldn’t be stepping all over your turf like I did. ;-)
For most of that period, we recognized them as depraved and did not celebrate them.
I know that a lot of young people are being taught that the Fifties was some kind of Ozzie and Harriet paradise until the Baby Boomers came along and destroyed the world in the Sixties. But, having been around back then, I can tell you that things weren't like that at all.
I was young in the Fifties. Nearly all of my friends had parents who had been through World War II. They had either been soldiers or women who were home waiting for soldiers. Maybe in part because of that, nearly all of these folks spent a lot of time drinking in bars and bowling alleys. Nearly all of them were puffing on cigarettes. Nearly every TV commercial was for cigarettes, beer or cars. (Every year, the major manufacturers came out with a car that was distinctly different than the prior year's model). There was homosexuality, but it was underground. There were abortions, but doctors used different names and different reasons for the procedure. Some of the abortions were outside of the health care system and plainly illegal. These things happened but nobody liked to talk about them. There was little or no contraception. When young girls got pregnant, they often moved somewhere else to stay with grandma or some aunt. The babies were often treated as children of someone in the family who was married. Again, all this stuff was going on. It was just not talked about openly. Jerry Lee Lewis married his eleven or twelve year old cousin, but denied it. Stuff like that. Many schools, restaurants, buses, trains, hotels, etc. were racially segregated and I'm not just talking about the South. In many ways, the Fifties was a cultural sewer.
For the most part, the Sixties and the Seventies were just decades in which the lid came off the jar and everything became a bit more public. Part of that was because communications became better. People started watching national television shows so regional accents started disappearing and we all started talking more like one another. And, it became harder to hide things.
But, like you say, most of the problems began long before the twentieth century. It wan't like people invented sex in the Sixties. On TV in the Fifties, husbands and wives slept in different beds and the word pregnant wasn't used. But, the real world wasn't like that. The idea that everything came apart after the Fifties is just a delusion that we've apparently been using to con young people.
bkmk
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