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Official Waco’s war on the First Amendment in the terse, turgid prose of the briefs filed so far
Radio Legendary ^ | August 1, 2015

Posted on 08/02/2015 2:17:09 PM PDT by don-o

Six Shooter Junction – Once upon a time, some bikers decided to drink a beer at a bar by the freeway and catch up on the politics of handgun law as contemplated by the Texas Legislature.

Seemed like the thing to do, since both the U.S. and Texas Constitutions guarantee a freedom to freely express one’s ideas in speech and writing, and to peacefully assemble with others with whome one may choose.

Now comes The State of Texas, by and through its Office of the Criminal District Attorney of McLennan County, and would humbly show unto WE THE PEOPLE that those laws do not apply when it comes to bombastic and hyperbolic charges filed on those who so choose.

None of those laws are even in the same league, much less the ball park, according to a response to a petition for an emergency writ of mandamus filed by an attorney who along with his client has been enjoined to keep his mouth shut about the facts of the case…

Dig the lingo, the local bebop in the dialect of high glaze…

The State –

State’s response to emergency petition for writ of mandamus filed 7/30/15:

In the wake of the violence, there was a heavy traffic of outlaw biker gang members traveling to the Waco area, and law enforcement intelligence had discovered that a “green light” had been given by certain criminal organizations to take retribution against law enforcement and/or members of rival gangs.

The Apostate –

Reply to state’s response to emergency petition for writ of mandamus :

The State’s Response Brief (“State’s Brief”) actually highlights almost everything that is wrong with the “gag order” in this case. Indeed, it purports to give this Court “facts” of the case that it claims are “facts” because these “facts are “what [is] “commonly known through press reports….For example, despite the fact that Mr. Clendennen belongs to the Scimitars Motorcycle Club, the State cites its own repeated press conferences in order to allow it to repeatedly refer to these “clubs” as “five outlaw biker gangs…Indeed, the word “gang” appears in the State’s brief ten times in an apparent attempt to prejudice this Court…”


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To: Smokin' Joe

“You and I both know there were a lot of people there not flying either Bandidos or Cossacks patches. “

And they were not arrested.


41 posted on 08/03/2015 7:57:48 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Smokin' Joe

“Not every parking lot fight will erupt into a police shoot down,”

Not every parking lot involves a gang war.


42 posted on 08/03/2015 8:00:31 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator
-- And they were not arrested. --

Better adjust your auto-post function, it contains some factual errors (unless you intend to be misleading, which appears to be the case), in addition to its "cherry picking" feature.

43 posted on 08/03/2015 8:02:46 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Smokin' Joe

” For those who are neither Bandidos nor Cossacks, “

All those arrested were Bandidos, Cossacks or their duck club members.


44 posted on 08/03/2015 8:04:27 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Cboldt

“some factual errors “

Please cite the errors.


45 posted on 08/03/2015 8:05:09 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator

Criminey, it’s easy enough for you to read the post you replied to, and your post. If you think your reply is factualy accurate, by all means. I’m not going to argue with an auto-posting idiot.


46 posted on 08/03/2015 8:06:47 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

” I’m not going to argue with an auto-posting idiot.”

(translated) you have no argument.


47 posted on 08/03/2015 8:12:38 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator

I see you corrected your remark, no argument indeed. Your posts are riddled with mistakes, everybody knows it but you.


48 posted on 08/03/2015 8:14:10 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

TG = Waste of time and the entertainment factor is just not there any more.


49 posted on 08/03/2015 8:17:26 AM PDT by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: Cboldt

“Your posts are riddled with mistakes, everybody knows it but you.”

Interesting ... another personal attack in lieu of providing a citation of any mistakes.


50 posted on 08/03/2015 8:18:33 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator

You aren’t worthy of anything but personal attack. Plus, you cited your own mistakes, you fool.


51 posted on 08/03/2015 8:20:54 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: TexasGator
Not every parking lot involves a gang war.

Pretty few. In fact Very few

In fact, this is the only one treated like a church group in Waco.

Too bad your boys couldn't just call in an air strike instead of mess with all those nasty legal complications.

52 posted on 08/03/2015 10:05:49 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: TexasGator
All those arrested were Bandidos, Cossacks or their duck club members.

Duck club? What is this a waterfowl hunting expedition?

Nope, but close. I think the word is "fishing".

I bet the Xerox machine overheated cranking out warrants. Besides, according to you, anyone flying a patch and riding a bike in texas is a Bandido anyway, whether the patch says "Riding for Jesus" or not. (The 'J' is pronounced like a soft 'G', there, not an 'H'.)

53 posted on 08/03/2015 10:08:51 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Me: Not every parking lot involves a gang war.
Pretty few. In fact Very few

You: Pretty few. In fact Very few

Casinos are more common?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnVEzEE3PPY


54 posted on 08/03/2015 10:39:27 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Smokin' Joe

“Besides, according to you, anyone flying a patch and riding a bike in texas is a Bandido”

Really! Do you just make this stuff?


55 posted on 08/03/2015 10:41:31 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Smokin' Joe

“Sandra Lynch was surprised when she saw a large group of Cossacks arriving around 11:30 a.m., said her attorney, Gary Smart of Arlington.

“When the Cossacks got there, her heart just sunk,” he said. “She just knew there was going to be trouble. (Cossacks) had been causing trouble around Waco for a while.”

http://www.wacotrib.com/news/twin-peaks-biker-shooting/released-bikers-give-clashing-accounts-of-twin-peaks-shootout/article_104678d4-f974-5643-9cf1-810ef1d16987.html


56 posted on 08/03/2015 10:43:26 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Smokin' Joe

““This whole situation destroyed what I expected out of a club,” Smith said. “We joined because of the family atmosphere, the family component, but this has all been far from it. I’m out.”
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Smith said “it all changed” when the Cossacks decided to put “Texas” on the back of their vests, intensifying mounting tensions with the Bandidos, who view Texas as their territory.”

http://www.wacotrib.com/news/twin-peaks-biker-shooting/bail-bond-ankle-monitor-companies-see-bonanza-from-biker-arrests/article_3c90f890-895d-5c69-a04d-0e5f58990b9d.html


57 posted on 08/03/2015 10:47:53 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator
(Cossacks) had been causing trouble around Waco for a while.”

Well, now, if that was the case, why weren't the Cossacks interdicted? Where was the LEO herd on that?

I think I will wait for some sworn testimony instead of third hand quotes.

But, consider this. If this person's "heart just sank" when they saw this particular group ride in, then there was no anticipation of trouble from the other groups present for a meeting to discuss legislative and event scheduling issues common to motorcyclists in the area.

The statement indicates that the purpose of the meeting was not a 'gang war', but as previously stated by COC&I members.

59 posted on 08/03/2015 10:54:42 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

“instead of third hand quotes.”

She was there. She had reserved the Twin Peaks for the Bandidos.

“The statement indicates that the purpose of the meeting was not a ‘gang war’, but as previously stated by COC&I members.”

The statement indicates that trouble was expected when the non-member Cossacks showed up in force. Trouble in this case was a gang war.


60 posted on 08/03/2015 10:59:24 AM PDT by TexasGator
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