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To: golux
The Colonies did not have a legal right to kick Great Britain out. We just did it. If we had failed, there would have been lots of hangings. The U.S. was much more lenient with the "secessionists." Maybe if we had hung all the leaders, the history would be more clear and we wouldn't have all this nonsense about a flag.

The crime of the secessionists was to think that they could strip away every Constitutional right of every U.S. citizen living in Southern states and to think that they could strip such citizens of their U.S. citizenship. I have no power to deprive any U.S. citizen of his constitutional rights or citizenship. There should have been some hangings to clarify things, but Lincoln was a softy.

And, the truth is, there are very few people in the South or anywhere who now miss the days of slavery. Slavery is gone forever and it's not coming back.

43 posted on 07/11/2015 11:35:08 AM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: Tau Food
The Colonies did not have a legal right to kick Great Britain out.

Not under British law, but the Declaration of Independence cites God and "natural law" as it's authority. Presumably having accepted "God" and "Natural Law" as the authority in matters of Independence, it would have continued to respect those authorities when others wanted to do the same thing.

The U.S. was much more lenient with the "secessionists."

Given that the Union was the Morally wrong side, and that the Secessionists did nothing more than what was their right as espoused by the Founding Document, not hanging people who were thwarted from exercising their rights is the least they could do.

The crime of the secessionists was to think that they could strip away every Constitutional right of every U.S. citizen living in Southern states and to think that they could strip such citizens of their U.S. citizenship.

You should read the Confederate Constitution. Most of it is very nearly a copy of the US Constitution. Much verbiage is completely lifted from the US Constitution. It also incorporates the bill of rights.

Now what rights are you saying citizens are being striped of? Did you have as much Sympathy for British Loyalists during the US War of Independence?

And, the truth is, there are very few people in the South or anywhere who now miss the days of slavery. Slavery is gone forever and it's not coming back.

Not true at all. Look around you. We work, while Washington D.C. collects the fruits of our labor. The Civil war didn't abolish slavery, it just modified the demographics of it.

We are all slaves now. Sure the chains are more gilded, but do not mistake the fact that you have masters.

56 posted on 07/11/2015 12:04:38 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Tau Food

“Maybe if we had hung all the leaders, the history would be more clear and we wouldn’t have all this nonsense about a flag.”

Lenin would approve.


73 posted on 07/11/2015 12:51:44 PM PDT by Pelham (Deo Vindice)
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