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To: Tau Food
The Colonies did not have a legal right to kick Great Britain out.

Not under British law, but the Declaration of Independence cites God and "natural law" as it's authority. Presumably having accepted "God" and "Natural Law" as the authority in matters of Independence, it would have continued to respect those authorities when others wanted to do the same thing.

The U.S. was much more lenient with the "secessionists."

Given that the Union was the Morally wrong side, and that the Secessionists did nothing more than what was their right as espoused by the Founding Document, not hanging people who were thwarted from exercising their rights is the least they could do.

The crime of the secessionists was to think that they could strip away every Constitutional right of every U.S. citizen living in Southern states and to think that they could strip such citizens of their U.S. citizenship.

You should read the Confederate Constitution. Most of it is very nearly a copy of the US Constitution. Much verbiage is completely lifted from the US Constitution. It also incorporates the bill of rights.

Now what rights are you saying citizens are being striped of? Did you have as much Sympathy for British Loyalists during the US War of Independence?

And, the truth is, there are very few people in the South or anywhere who now miss the days of slavery. Slavery is gone forever and it's not coming back.

Not true at all. Look around you. We work, while Washington D.C. collects the fruits of our labor. The Civil war didn't abolish slavery, it just modified the demographics of it.

We are all slaves now. Sure the chains are more gilded, but do not mistake the fact that you have masters.

56 posted on 07/11/2015 12:04:38 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

Resolved: That the Constitution confers upon Congress sovereign powers over the Territories of the United States for their government; and that in the exercise of this power, it is both the right and the imperative duty of Congress to prohibit in the Territories those twin relics of barbarism — Polygamy, and Slavery.

Republican platform of 1856.

http://www.ushistory.org/gop/convention_1856republicanplatform.htm

The Republican party was the party of abolition...period.


78 posted on 07/11/2015 12:58:44 PM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '16)
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To: DiogenesLamp
Now what rights are you saying citizens are being striped of?

How about each and every one of the individual rights guaranteed by the United States Constitution?

You can start with an easy one - the right to participate in the selection of the President of the United States. Not true at all. Look around you. We work, while Washington D.C. collects the fruits of our labor. The Civil war didn't abolish slavery, it just modified the demographics of it.

We are all slaves now. Sure the chains are more gilded, but do not mistake the fact that you have masters.

I suspect you're having trouble appreciating the reality of slavery, what it really meant to be owned by another human being. If you get to Heaven someday and meet some people who really were slaves, then you can swap stories with them about your life in chains. "And, they made me fill out a 1040 - every year!"

It's hard to imagine anyone saying the things you're saying. You've obviously had it too easy.

167 posted on 07/11/2015 10:45:57 PM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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