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How Smart Should the President Be? A historical analysis suggests a link between IQ and performance
Scientific American ^ | May 26, 2015 | David Z. Hambrick

Posted on 05/26/2015 7:03:56 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: Ditto
IMHO, IQ tests do not measure real smarts.

The IQ tests measures how good someone is at taking IQ tests.

41 posted on 05/27/2015 12:32:26 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Falcon 105)
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To: Rockpile

Yeah, Ted could write.

His devotion to strict historical accuracy is a little more questionable.


42 posted on 05/27/2015 12:45:13 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Fresh Wind

Entirely right.

However, there is a high degree of correlation between this skill and actual intelligence.


43 posted on 05/27/2015 12:46:36 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I give this article the same credibility as any other Scientific American article - zero. With their history on failing to recognize the global warming hoax, how could they get anything else right?

They say "IQ correlated positively with a measure of “presidential greatness” based on multiple rankings and ratings of presidents’ leadership ability—and the relationship went in a straight line."

Of course they would get straight line rankings. The same people guessed at both the rankings AND the greatness. A true test of correlation would have three different groups of people, all blind to the others, one group ranking IQ, another ranking "greatness", and the third performing the correlation.

44 posted on 05/27/2015 5:00:58 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (The Stone Age did not end because we ran out of stones)
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To: Sherman Logan

Agree. To put JFK over Lincoln immediately made my “BS Meter” go off.

Had a friend, one of the smartest people I’ve ever met, who never even graduated from High School. I’ve spent the majority of my adult life working in higher education and educated sure has heck doesn’t mean intelligent.


45 posted on 05/27/2015 6:20:21 AM PDT by KosmicKitty (Liberals claim to want to hear other views, but then are shocked to discover there are other views)
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To: Nifster

Kerry’s college grades were lower than Bush’s. But the media liked to hide that fact.


46 posted on 05/27/2015 6:23:26 AM PDT by KosmicKitty (Liberals claim to want to hear other views, but then are shocked to discover there are other views)
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To: KosmicKitty

But educated people like to think it does.

I personally never had the opportunity to attend college, but I’ve worked my way up to near the head of my profession in a rather obscure field. People are remarkably surprised when they find out I’m not college educated, though I make no attempt to hide it. By the time they find out, I’ve usually thoroughly demonstrated my competence on the job, so they don’t care.

One of my more enjoyable experiences was leading a team to victory in a winter festival Knowledge Bowl competition. College town, and we stomped all over teams loaded with PhDs.

Never let schooling interfere with your education. They are distinct concepts, though people confuse them.


47 posted on 05/27/2015 6:36:08 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: gorush

Read a biography of Garfield once. He had a party trick.

He’d get two pieces of paper and two pens.

Somebody would give him a Shakespeare or other quote.

He’d immediately translate and simultaneously write the quote down in Greek with his left hand, writing backwards, and in Latin with his right hand.

!!!


48 posted on 05/27/2015 6:54:25 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: tstarr

Intelligence test or work test. I can’t tell you how many times over the last 6 years that while either programming or cutting firewood that I thought, Obama couldn’t do this.


49 posted on 05/27/2015 7:04:00 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (visit sports.quotelight.com)
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To: grateful
I have an IQ of 154. I understand Obama completely. He’s not that smart and certainly not qualified to be president.

My IQ was measure four points lower then yours. (RATS. . . grin) I agree with your assessment completely of our current White House pResident. I also knew Ronald Reagan personally. . . and he was a very brilliant man with insights that belie the level of IQ they have assigned to him.

50 posted on 05/27/2015 9:23:57 AM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: Ditto

Years ago I was taught that there is a difference, in some people a huge difference, between ‘intelligence’ or ‘smarts’ as measured by standard questions about ordinary life occurrences and ‘wisdom’. Wisdom being the result of being able to translate intelligence to necessary aspects of human life. I believe the Founders for the most had such wisdom in forming the USA. Lincoln apparently had both and I tend to believe that Reagan also had both.


51 posted on 05/27/2015 10:04:28 AM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: Veto!

Veto! said “My IQ is probably higher than any US president’s, but I would make a seriously rotten president.

A. I don’t want the job.
B. I’m an introvert, not a team player,
C. I’m short tempered,
D. and probably most importantly, I have very low tolerance for idiots.

With my superior intellect and low BS-threshold, I’d alienate every other country in the world.”

Amen, especially ‘D’!


52 posted on 05/27/2015 12:31:11 PM PDT by Baron 2A (Those that can, do; those who can't, teach; those who do neither become journalists!)
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To: noinfringers2

I agree.


53 posted on 05/27/2015 5:39:32 PM PDT by Ditto
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Scientific American has been nothing but a political rag since 1968, I canceled my subscription in 1972.


54 posted on 05/27/2015 6:01:01 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: KosmicKitty

indeed


55 posted on 05/27/2015 8:54:01 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’ve worked with folks who have multiple PHDs and are scary-smart in their field - yet they can’t tie their own shoes. I’ve worked with folks who are not degreed at all, but are perhaps the best broad-range problem solvers I have ever met. I’ve worked with good managers and bad. Education/IQ does not seem to form any pattern in my experience.

Serial killers have been known to have a relatively high IQ.

So, although *some* level of intelligence is desirable, I want a President who can *LEAD*, argue his policies coherently both to Congress and The People and delegate responsibly to execute those policies. I doubt many Presidents have the understanding of every single issue they deal with, compared to the understanding of their chosen advisors. If the President surrounds himself with good people, it increases the odds we will have good results.

Case in point: Valerie Jarrett.


56 posted on 05/28/2015 7:15:26 AM PDT by jaydee770
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To: Sherman Logan

After reading up a bit on Sorensen’s career I see he was a Demorat apparatchik right up to his very end in 2010.


57 posted on 05/29/2015 6:33:05 AM PDT by Rockpile
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To: grateful

It’s apparent that the man has a “talent”, like a parlor trick, of being able to read speeches in a charismatic and convincing manner.

When the words aren’t written for him, however, his sub-100 IQ becomes readily apparent. as well.


58 posted on 05/29/2015 6:36:32 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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