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To: Josh Painter

amazing how such a simple concept can be twisted

a natural born citizen is a citizen naturally... AS THERE ARE NO ALTERNATIVES

every other office defined by the Constitution used the term ‘citizen’ as a requirement. only the office of the president was different, requiring a ‘natural born citizen’.

why?

well, the founders discussed it. they wanted to insure the person that assumed the office wouldn’t have split allegiances, at least by birth. they also wanted to insure the king of england would NEVER be able to be president of the United States.

the second part can be used as a simple logic test helping to verify the first. that being, both parents must be citizens and the child must be born on the soil.

as a test, look at prince william and kate. if they flew to NYC and she gave birth then flew home... their child could be the future king of england. if he moved to the US when he was 20 and ran for president at 34... he would be eligible IF the rules being applied to 0bama, TCruz and others were used. obviously, this is the EXACT scenario the founders wanted to avoid.

of course, TCruz will be promoted as the main candidate for the right. he will (and is) making all the right noises we want to hear. it’s red meat.

the goal for the left would be for TCruz to get the nomination... then disqualify him just after the primaries. this will allow EWarrent to win on a walk in november as the right will be too confused


19 posted on 05/14/2015 10:21:36 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: sten
"well, the founders discussed it. they wanted to insure the person that assumed the office wouldn’t have split allegiances, at least by birth. they also wanted to insure the king of england would NEVER be able to be president of the United States. the second part can be used as a simple logic test helping to verify the first. that being, both parents must be citizens and the child must be born on the soil. as a test, look at prince william and kate. if they flew to NYC and she gave birth then flew home... their child could be the future king of england. if he moved to the US when he was 20 and ran for president at 34... he would be eligible IF the rules being applied to 0bama, TCruz and others were used. obviously, this is the EXACT scenario the founders wanted to avoid."

What if an American man traveled to Russia and got a member of Vladimir Putin's family pregnant? oops, Natural Born Citizen! Yea right.

I wouldn't try to inject logic into this thread! I have come to the conclusion that some "conservatives" can be as illogical as the liberals.

We just need to get Cruz elected and quit talking about if he is an NBC or not. We are simply setting ourselves up to ultimately get him disqualified using the delusional logic cited in this article.

26 posted on 05/14/2015 10:55:04 AM PDT by precisionshootist
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