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To: sten
"well, the founders discussed it. they wanted to insure the person that assumed the office wouldn’t have split allegiances, at least by birth. they also wanted to insure the king of england would NEVER be able to be president of the United States. the second part can be used as a simple logic test helping to verify the first. that being, both parents must be citizens and the child must be born on the soil. as a test, look at prince william and kate. if they flew to NYC and she gave birth then flew home... their child could be the future king of england. if he moved to the US when he was 20 and ran for president at 34... he would be eligible IF the rules being applied to 0bama, TCruz and others were used. obviously, this is the EXACT scenario the founders wanted to avoid."

What if an American man traveled to Russia and got a member of Vladimir Putin's family pregnant? oops, Natural Born Citizen! Yea right.

I wouldn't try to inject logic into this thread! I have come to the conclusion that some "conservatives" can be as illogical as the liberals.

We just need to get Cruz elected and quit talking about if he is an NBC or not. We are simply setting ourselves up to ultimately get him disqualified using the delusional logic cited in this article.

26 posted on 05/14/2015 10:55:04 AM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: precisionshootist

You might find this to be ironic:
The German newspaper “Die Zeit” is highlighting the mysterious early years of Vladimir Putin, thanks to a Chechen man who resurfaced in Western Europe after years of hiding. According to testimonies the man recorded from Vera Putina, the woman who claims to be the president’s biological mother, Putin was born out of wedlock and sent to live with distant relatives he would eventually claim as his real parents as a child. The Chechen, “Rustam Daudov,” says Putin didn’t know Russian, so his new birth certificate made him two years younger so he could repeat a grade. Federal agents allegedly removed all traces of him from his real home village in Georgia, but one photo allegedly remains of young Putin, though there’s no proof that it’s him.Rumors about his true origins have plagued Putin for years. Notably, journalists have failed to find anyone who knew Putin as a young boy in St. Petersburg; most accounts of his childhood start after the age of 8. Officially released photos that imply the child in them is Putin are often uncaptioned; one showing a young child on his mother’s lap may in fact show Putin’s older brother.


33 posted on 05/14/2015 12:12:48 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus (PALIN/CRUZ: 2016)
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To: precisionshootist

problem is... the left understands TCruz isn’t eligible and they’re hoping he gets the nomination. they will then contest his NBC status, pointing to not being born on the soil (thereby not addressing the 2 parent question... leaving 0bama untouched).

which will result in the right scrambling for a candidate going into the election. whoever is chosen, he won’t have the momentum and the base will be disillusioned. this will allow the dem candidate (which i believe will be EWarren) to win without much opposition.

if TCruz wants to run, he needs to address the issue early and get the SCOTUS to rule on the question before it’s too late


48 posted on 05/14/2015 1:02:35 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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