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To: Sean_Anthony
It ain't just the pope:

"A country that was founded by...Hispanic Catholics...before George Washington was born."
-- from the thread New L.A. Archbishop...Discusses Immigration & Hispanics In Church

"...U.S. history has been primarily taught from a WASP (White Anglo-Saxon Protestant) perspective, and this has more often than not been anti-Catholic, or at the least, silent on the foundation of America as being originally Catholic."
-- from the thread Book Review: Discovering a Lost Heritage: The Catholic Origins of America

"...what the Times didn’t report in its elision of a story, that is, the extraordinary bravery and derringdo of Catholic nuns, nuns who arrived in America more than 300 years ago, when the first Ursuline sisters arrived in New Orleans in 1727, nuns who have stood under a bright light and lifted it higher in this during the country’s darkest hours, nuns who have helped stream forward a rushing river of love that began 2,000 years ago, to paraphrase Saint Bernard de Clairvaux."
-- from the thread How Catholic Nuns Shaped America

"A few days ago (3 May) the Polish people celebrated / honored Our Lady as Queen of Poland. So I was thinking why couldn't we here in our republic of the USA honor her as QUEEN OF AMERICA (Regina Americae) with maybe a feast day of 4 July? (I know that the Immaculate Conception is our country's patroness.) And her holy spouse Saint Joseph would be Dux Americae! "
-- from the thread What About Mary as QUEEN OF AMERICA?

The history books will tell you that the first Thanksgiving was celebrated by the pilgrims in 1621. Not true....the first American Thanksgiving was actually celebrated on September 8, 1565 in St. Augustine, Florida. The Native Americans and Spanish settlers held a feast and the Holy Mass was offered....The Catholic origins of Thanksgiving don’t stop there. Squanto, the beloved hero of Thanksgiving, was the Native American man who mediated between the Puritan Pilgrims and the Native Americans. Squanto had been enslaved by the English but he was freed by Spanish Franciscans. Squanto thus received baptism and became a Catholic. So it was a baptized Catholic Native American who orchestrated what became known as Thanksgiving.

All that being said, Thanksgiving is traditional Protestant and marks the tradition of religious toleration (something in which the Puritan pilgrims did not actually believe - they set up a "theocracy")....
-- from the thread Is “Thanksgiving” Catholic?

"Pope Leo XIII saw problems in American religion and came up with the concept of Americanism, denounced by Testem Benevolentiae Nostrae of 1898. Ironically, Americanism began, not in the United States, but in France when Leo XIII asked Catholics to accept the Republic and not to make too much use of activism and politics.
-- from the thread From the Inside or the Outside? [Is Attempting to Convert by Political Means Advisable?]

13 posted on 05/04/2015 9:15:01 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Alex Murphy
None of those things have the slightest bit to do with the country that was established by Declaration on July 2nd 1776, with its original government established in March of 1781, nor with its current government established on June 21st, 1788.

Sorry to hurt your feelings. They're tiny -- mostly insignificant -- bits of history that occurred on the North American Continent. That doesn't make them part of American history. The Bishop of Rome was, once again, wrong.

16 posted on 05/04/2015 9:28:30 AM PDT by FredZarguna (On your deathbed you will receive total consciousness. So I got that goin' for me.)
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To: Alex Murphy

One of the shocking things I learned here was, that some Catholics are anti-American, they see America as a nation whose only value, is the degree to which it is Catholic, they despise America’s history and it’s founding, and see that as a problem that had to be fixed.

To them, better the America of today, than the America of 1800, because at least today it is 24% Catholic, and with more flooding in, which they seem to prefer, even though it empowers the pro-abortion, gay marriage left.

America at it’s founding, is seen as a problem that had to be dealt with.


21 posted on 05/04/2015 11:59:18 AM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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