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1 posted on 04/27/2015 8:02:51 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They seem to have left out population control, especially certain populations.


66 posted on 04/27/2015 8:45:58 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (God is very intollerant, why shouldn't I be?)
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I am pro-abortion like I’m pro-knee-replacement and pro-chemotherapy and pro-cataract surgery. As the last protection against ill-conceived childbearing when all else fails, abortion is part of a set of tools that help women and men to form the families of their choosing. I believe that abortion care is a positive social good. I suspect that a lot of other people secretly believe the same thing. And I think it’s time we said so.

Although I might agree with all those statements, I totally reject the apples and oranges comparison.

First of all, this is, and should remain an individual choice with no role whatsoever for the central, state or local government.

I have failed to notice a stampede of demands for "government" to fund self-inflicted knee-replacement and pro-chemotherapy and pro-cataract surgery. These are all afflictions in which the victim plays no role in choosing the affliction, whereas abortion has a string of perps directly responsible for the condition, completely in control and in addition, subject to "first resort" and avoidance.

There has been a tendency for several generations now to erase the concept of crime, choices and consequences and the societal victims are totally ignored, primarily the taxpayers who are saddled forever by criminals using baby factories to fund their indolent lifestyle for generation after generation. A strange form of involuntary servitude, otherwise known as "slavery.".

The purpose of laws are to protect society at large, not the irresponsible and criminally bent. The notion that the perps are "blameless" can and should be permanently rejected.

If costly and pervasive crime and criminals are deemed "blameless," beyond the control of the criminals, and not subject to punishment, then all crime, including murder, sick perversions and cannibalism can no longer be prosecuted and punished.

Perhaps society should reconsider treatments that in the past have proven 100% effective, including the freedom for the criminals to persist in their actions, without the monumental societal cost.
Ten reasons, or 10,000 reasons are insufficient to allow the irrational burden to continue forever.

Last, but not least, It is impossible to find in the Constitution the obligation or power granted to elected government to create "rights" which make slaves of the vast majority of its citizens.
Yes, throughout the existence of the Republic, lower courts and even Supreme Court decisions have been reversed when they obviously have the sole effect of exacerbating the negative results of stupidity, feeblemindedness or insanity of a tiny segment of the population.

67 posted on 04/27/2015 8:47:30 AM PDT by publius911 (If you like Obamacare, You'll LOVE ObamaWeb.)
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Abortion is nothing more nor less than first degree, premeditated murder on the part of the "mother," whoever drives her to the abortionist, and the abortionist himself.

And to think that because of semantics and words, we slaughter 3,300 live human beings every day, just shows how disgusting our country has become.

This is exactly what Hitler's people did in the slaughter of the Jews and homosexuals during WWII: semantics and words . . . no scientific facts as to their humanism . . . just semantics and words.

69 posted on 04/27/2015 8:52:22 AM PDT by laweeks
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New York Assembly Passes Bill Allowing Shooting Babies Through the Heart With Poison to Kill Them
Life News ^ | 3/25/15 | Steven Ertelt http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3272534/posts


70 posted on 04/27/2015 8:52:26 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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Valerie, please tell me: How many Einsteins have been aborted? How many RRs have been aborted? How many Salks have been aborted? How many Bill Gates’? How many Steve Jobs’? Oh, you can’t answer that, can you? Because no one knows and we’ll never know. God knows and he is keeping count, you idiot!


77 posted on 04/27/2015 9:06:04 AM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Why does every totalitarian, political hack think that he knows how to run my life better than I do?)
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The left is bereft of logic. Anyone could use her arguments to support the mercy killing of liberals. I support the mercy killing of all Liberals because...

1. Being able to delay and limit liberals is fundamental to female dignity and nature...

2. Well-timed mercy killing of Liberals gives children a healthier start in life...

3. I take politics and the future of our nation seriously...

4. Intentional mercy killing helps couples, families and communities to get out of poverty...

5. Reproduction is a highly imperfect process. Genetic recombination is a complicated progression with flaws and false starts at every step along the way...

6. I think morality is about the well-being of sentient beings and mercy killing will rid the world of those incapable of feeling terrible about killing babies!

7. I’m pro-mercy killing because contraceptives are imperfect, and people are too...

8. I’m pro-mercy killing because I believe in mercy, grace, compassion, and the power of fresh starts...

9. I’m pro-mercy killing because the future is always in motion, and we have the power and responsibility to shape it well [imagine a world with no liberals!!!]...

10. I’m pro-mercy killing because I love my daughter [and do not want her being taught by liberals!!].

78 posted on 04/27/2015 9:07:58 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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What other drivel would you expect from a “writer” with a name like Venereal Taco?


80 posted on 04/27/2015 9:12:23 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And some people get mad and so no one is pro-abortion.


84 posted on 04/27/2015 9:26:56 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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I read my first article from Salon yesterday.

Here’s the link: http://www.salon.com/2015/01/25/i_do_not_care_about_your_baby_partner/

It’s not likely I could stomach two of their pieces in as many days.

No global warming over there; their hearts are cold as ice.

Blessed Mother Teresa, please pray for us.


85 posted on 04/27/2015 9:31:19 AM PDT by mlizzy ("Tell your troubles to Jesus," my wisecracking father used to say, and now I do.......at adoration.)
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I am anti-abortion because it murders the most helpless of human beings.


86 posted on 04/27/2015 9:34:22 AM PDT by all the best
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In other words if your dedicated to worship at the devils alter you must be willing to sacrifice your children, or at the very least be willing to encourage others to do so.


89 posted on 04/27/2015 9:42:45 AM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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Here is an except from her website:
Valerie Tarico is a psychologist and writer in Seattle, Washington. She completed her Ph.D. in Counseling Psychology from the University of Iowa and postdoctoral studies at the University of Washington. She subsequently joined the staff of Seattle Children’s Hospital and ran Children’s Behavior and Learning Clinic in Bellevue, Washington, before moving to a private clinic. Eventually it became clear that social and political trends were undermining what she was trying to accomplish as a mental health practitioner: to have there be a little less pain and a little more delight in the world. She closed her practice to take on some of those bigger issues.

What a gem.

Here is the link to her website,for those interested: Valerie Tarico. Be prepared to shower afterwards.

92 posted on 04/27/2015 9:51:38 AM PDT by LaRueLaDue (Remember- allah is the Charles Manson of deities, and mohammed is his Tex Watson. - LysolMotorola)
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“I’m speechless.”

I, on the other hand, am not:

1. I’m pro-abortion because...A woman who lacks the means to manage her fertility lacks the means to manage her life.
(the means to manage our fertility is no sex outside marriage)

2. I’m pro-abortion because well-timed pregnancies give children a healthier start in life.
(whereas murdering unwanted children gives children no start in life)

3. I’m pro-abortion because I take motherhood seriously....But parenting is a lot of work, and doing it well takes twenty dedicated years of focus, attention, patience, persistence, social support, mental health, money, and a whole lot more. (and Heaven forbid we allow anything difficult into someones life just because of their sin)

4. I’m pro-abortion because intentional childbearing helps couples, families and communities to get out of poverty. Decades of research in countries ranging from the U.S. to Bangladesh show that reproductive policy is economic policy.
(so abortion is profitable, Planned Parenthood is well aware of that. God too, though he may frown on murder for profit, but we can NOT believe in Him and therefore by denial, He does not exist, or does not care what we do with those He created in His own image. Is that what she’s saying here?)

5. This systematic culling makes God or nature the world’s biggest abortion provider: Nature’s way of producing healthy kids essentially requires every woman to have an abortion mill built into her own body.
(flat out admission of playing God here)

6. Do unto others as they want you to do unto them. It’s called the Platinum Rule. In this moral universe, real people count more than potential people, hypothetical people or corporate people.
(tell me she didn’t just pull this one out of her butt!)

7. I’m pro-abortion because contraceptives are imperfect, and people are too....Once settled into place, an IUD or implant drops the annual pregnancy rate below 1 in 500. And guess what. Teen pregnancies and abortions plummet—which makes me happy, because even though I’m pro-abortion, I’d love the need for abortion to go away. Why mitigate harm when you can prevent it?
(as though the creation of a human life is harm, just because it is the result of selfish sin, and killing a baby is NOT harm?)

8. I’m pro-abortion because I believe in mercy, grace, compassion, and the power of fresh starts...Who among us hasn’t had unprotected sex when the time or situation or partnership wasn’t quite right for bringing a new life into the world? Most of the time we get lucky; sometimes we don’t. And in those situations we rely on the mercy, compassion, and generosity of others...In this regard, an unsought pregnancy is like any other accident. I can walk today only because surgeons reassembled my lower leg...Three accidents, all my own doing, and three knee surgeries. Some women have three abortions.
(sin is not an accident, it is sin. The father deliberately penetrated the mother, and the mother accommodated him, not accidentally. It’s not as though Jack and Jill went up the hill and on the way down tripped and fell causing the coitus that resulted in pregnancy.)

9. I’m pro-abortion because the future is always in motion, and we have the power and responsibility to shape it well. As a college student, I read a Ray Bradbury story...In baby making, as in Bradbury’s story, the future is always in motion, and every little thing we do has consequences we have no way to predict. Any small change means a different child comes into the world.
(a brave new world this woman and her cohorts are engineering so much more wisely than God, conceived from reading sci-fi)

10. I’m pro-abortion because I love my daughter...“My Abortion Baby” was about my daughter, Brynn, who exists only because a kind doctor like George Tiller gave me and my husband the gift of a fresh start when we learned that our wanted pregnancy was unhealthy. Brynn literally embodies the ever changing flow of the future...My husband and I felt very clear that carrying forward that pregnancy would have been a violation of our values, and neither of us ever second guessed our decision...All around us, living breathing and loving are the chosen children of mothers who waited—who ended an ill-timed or unhealthy pregnancy and then later chose to carry forward a new life...“My abortions let me have these two when the time was right, with someone I loved.”...Those who see abortion as an unmitigated evil often talk about the “millions of missing people” who were not born into this world because a pregnant woman decided, not now. But they never talk about the millions of children and adults who are here today only because their mothers had abortions—real people who exist in this version of the future...When those who oppose abortion lament the “missing people,” I hear an echo of my own petulant thought: I want that person, not this one. And I wish that they could simply experience what I did, that they could look into the beautiful eyes of the people in front of them, and fall in love.
(This is...drum roll...the cherry on top of the whipped cream in this cupcake’s perfectly manipulated world: it’s for the children! We kill children for the children. Didn’t we all see that coming?)

In order for abortion to be morally acceptable, one has to believe he/she is a better decision maker than God, or believe God is not going to hold him/her responsible for his/her acts. Or maybe it helps to be a complete moron.


93 posted on 04/27/2015 9:54:17 AM PDT by Blue Collar Christian (Ready for Teddy. Cruz, that is. Texas conservative.)
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So it is all about you, Valerie.

So will you be held responsible for the deaths of the many children that are denied the God given right to live?

Pursue your licentious lifestyle to your detriment.


94 posted on 04/27/2015 9:55:10 AM PDT by ADSUM
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II Timothy 3:1-5

1 But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: 2 For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, 4 traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, 5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away!


96 posted on 04/27/2015 9:59:51 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (The Constitution's preamble, which is its statement of purpose, is the supreme law of the land.)
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Her comment: “In this moral universe, real people count more than potential people, hypothetical people or corporate people.”

Perhaps she should consider that Jesus died on the Cross for her sins. Is she a “real” person or just a pretender?


98 posted on 04/27/2015 10:18:28 AM PDT by ADSUM
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I'm speechless.

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That's exactly what I was about to post.

99 posted on 04/27/2015 10:18:29 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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IMHO: Maybe the “whore of Babylon” isn’t so much a single person as it is the so-called, “women’s rights movement.” Look at what stemmed from it... the sexual revolution, breakdown of the traditional families; and the pro choice issues. Not to mention the potential next POTUS. .


102 posted on 04/27/2015 3:24:56 PM PDT by Grateful2God (Because no word shall be impossible with God. And Mary said: Behold the handmaid of the Lord...)
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“I believe that abortion care is a positive social good “

Well let’s see...Leftists who want to slaughter their own offspring which would thin out their numbers in the future...hmmm... I need to think about this....


108 posted on 04/28/2015 10:43:58 AM PDT by Pelham (The refusal to deport is defacto amnesty)
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The mind of a sick modern female

Hell yeah

The world will be soooooooooo much effing better if they run things

Satan lives rent free in her soul

Maybe the craziest screed on abortion I’ve seen yet


110 posted on 04/29/2015 8:44:45 AM PDT by wardaddy (Dems hate western civilization and GOP are cowards...We are headed to a dark place)
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