KY: Surrender has to be Unambiguous to be Effective

Gun Watch ^ | 11 April, 2014 | Dean Weingarten

[marktwain]

In this case in Kentucky, the robber had a fake gun.  When the victim pulled his own gun, the robber resorted to a gesture that indicated he did not want a gun fight.  But the realistic fake gun was still in his hand.

The clerk fired, the robber dropped the fake gun and fled.  His accomplices dropped him off at a closed Urgent Care, but bystanders called an ambulance and he survived, barely. 

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William Sexton's Accomplices

Police Chief Rick Sanders joins a growing list of police and Sheriffs who have praised armed defenders.  From wlky.com:

Sanders said the clerks move was risky, but paid off.

"In this case, I think the clerk did everything right and fortunately he survived," Sander said.

In the above closeup, it is easy to see that the item is a fake 1911 Colt.  It is not so easy to see it from a few feet, in a dynamic situation, when it is pointed in your direction.   As Chief Sanders noted, you have to assume that the threat is real. 

It turned out that the four suspects involved in the attempted robbery all admitted to being involved.  They all said that they were heroin addicts who were attempting to obtain their next fix.  It is possible that a forced period, off of the drug, in jail or prison, will save them from an overdose.   The wounded robber, William Brandon Sexton, was lucky to survive the shooting:

The clerk shot Sexton once, hitting him in the hand and chest. He lost at least one finger and bullet fragments penetrated his heart and lungs.

The article does not say what ammunition the clerk was using.  It was likely a very aggressive hollowpoint, or perhaps a prefragmented round such as a Glaser safety slug.  A full metal jacketed bullet would not have fragmented so quickly.

If faced with an opponent who holds a weapon, you cannot assume that their gestures or words of surrender are genuine.

Notice that even though Sexton was shot in the hand and the chest, he had plenty of active time to retreat out the door and make it into the getaway car.  The Clerk showed considerable (and justifiable) restraint by not continuing to fire after the first shot forced Sexton to drop the fake gun. 

People who are shot often continue their actions for many seconds before they are disabled.

The common wisdom is that defenders should continue to fire until the opponent is no longer a threat.

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[marktwain]

If it looks like a real gun, it will be treated like a real gun.

[Paladin2]

Does this explain why the Senior Senator from KY is not effective?

[Tijeras_Slim]

Off topic, but on the way home from the range yesterday there was a guy by the highway with a folding table and a sign saying “AMMO”. Had a nice stack of boxes and was doing some business.

[KarlInOhio]

Even from that picture I wouldn’t be sure it was fake. Maybe “Colt 1911 Target” means it is a model specialized for competition shooting rather than day to day usage. And you could only read that if the robber held it nice and steady in a horizontal position. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

[AlaskaErik]

The article does not say what ammunition the clerk was using.

I always use hollow points in my defensive pistols. Speer Gold Dot, Federal Hydra Shok and Horniday Critical Defense, to name a few.

[RightOnTheBorder]

Clerk looks like he is holding a pretty small pistol, similar to a Kel-Tec or Taurus slim model. Once you get into short barrel (3” and below) 9mm or 380 ACP you have do balance wound channel size with penetration. I have read that in short barrel .380’s you can be more lethal with heavier fmj bullets than hollow points.

That said, I too use the gold dots designed for short barrel. I think on the whole they are a better defensive load but this story may illustrate the counter point.

[Sherman Logan]

The Clerk showed considerable (and justifiable) restraint by not continuing to fire after the first shot forced Sexton to drop the fake gun.

As opposed to the cop in SC who fired eight rounds into a retreating man who was zero threat when the shooting started.

[ViLaLuz]

It looks pretty darn real to me, even “close up.”