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Anyone who has ever served could've predicted this.
1 posted on 04/08/2015 7:44:08 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The obvious answer is to lower the standards further.


2 posted on 04/08/2015 7:50:35 PM PDT by headstamp 2
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Active Duty ping.


4 posted on 04/08/2015 7:53:57 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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There are a few jobs in the Military that females can’t do ,why force them to try to do them


5 posted on 04/08/2015 7:54:14 PM PDT by molson209 (Blank)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How many millions of wasted Promo Dollars did THIS fiasco cost US?


6 posted on 04/08/2015 7:54:48 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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I think it was a mistake to lower the requirements to get in, in the real world, the enemy isn’t going to go easier on you because you are a woman. You need to fit the requirement to enter and pass the regular test.

As a woman, I’m proud that our bodies are different. You guys can’t give birth, and that trumps any muscle/strength issue you can put out there. :-)


7 posted on 04/08/2015 7:55:55 PM PDT by mrsadams
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Pussies...


8 posted on 04/08/2015 7:56:37 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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Standards are Patriarchy.

End the Oppression and make the USMC a "Safe Space".

10 posted on 04/08/2015 7:57:55 PM PDT by Dagnabitt (Islamic Immigration is Treason)
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Getting a 1st class score of the physical fitness test is pretty easy for a male and really really hard for a female. For instance, a man can do 10 pull-ups with almost no extra work, but I have only met one woman who could do it.

I went through IOC 30 years ago, and it was hard, but we also played hard. Our instructors for the most part were junior captains and single, so we had a lot of fun. For instance, immediately after our final field exercise the captains bought a keg of beer and we got pretty drunk while cleaning our gear. I really wish I had a picture of that scene (30 Lts- dirty, tired and still painted with cammie paint, cleaning the mud off of their gear while getting sloshed.) However, we were too smart to document that event with pictures.

14 posted on 04/08/2015 8:03:08 PM PDT by fini
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And they thought Math was hard.


16 posted on 04/08/2015 8:06:46 PM PDT by MaxMax (Call the local GOP and ask how you can support CRUZ for POTUS, Make them talk!)
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Men and women were made different by God. Amen.


17 posted on 04/08/2015 8:07:30 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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Women!

All talk, no muscle!


18 posted on 04/08/2015 8:08:24 PM PDT by donna (Pray for Revival)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

More women trying to be men.


19 posted on 04/08/2015 8:16:01 PM PDT by Politicalkiddo ("The God who gave us life, gave us liberty at the same time." Thomas Jefferson)
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21 posted on 04/08/2015 8:44:11 PM PDT by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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Another glorious day in the history of the corps! Gung Ho Gung Ho Gung Ho!


22 posted on 04/08/2015 8:46:35 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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I graduated IOC over thirty years ago, right on the heels of TBS. It was six days per week of heavy combat-oriented PT, field exercises and classwork, with little sleep and no down time. I loved it, but it was very tough. Unlike the Infantry Training Course which is designed to build up enlisted Marines' fighting skills and fitness, the Infantry Officer Course is designed to make student officers fail the course so they won't go on to fail their Marines in the fleet. IOC's high failure rate underscores its success in delivering the successful combat leaders that our Marines deserve.

What few people realize is that the female officers who have attempted the Marine Infantry Officer Course have been the strongest and toughest that the Corps could find. Most of them were collegiate athletes, and all of them have failed the course. But IOC is much different from sports, challenging the kind of physical and mental strength, endurance, aggressiveness and sheer will required to lead Marines in ground combat. It is never enough for Marine infantry officers to keep up with their Marines - they must LEAD their Marines!

Ground combat is a gruesome task for strong men led by stronger men. Even the toughest are broken and slaughtered. Marine Corps infantry is no place for social experimentation, and pretending otherwise is a recipe for disaster. I credit USMC leadership for not compromising our standards, but it is past time to put this phony issue to rest.

24 posted on 04/08/2015 8:57:55 PM PDT by Always A Marine
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Is it politically correct to say BS?

For the sake of meeting some arbitrary politically correct standard the DOD politicians (and that’s what Pentagon flag officers are) will cave and reduce the physical standards, reduce unit cohesiveness, and completely mess up the interpersonal dynamics of a combat unit. Just adding a female in combat as a grunt will cause unintended consequences to the Marines. She is incapable of physically doing what a Marine needs to do whether it is lifting ammo or moving a wounded comrade. She may represent only half a Marine.

But then what do I know because I believe in the draft, especially as method to get young people involved and filling many non-combat non technical or materiel type jobs, and have these jobs done much less costly than through contractors.

I despise these PC concepts because it is a major factor that elites have used to muzzle and divide us as a nation by making some special and others forced to sacrifice. It gets a life of its own because the media wields a big stick that they use to gain power and others kowtow.


28 posted on 04/08/2015 10:17:36 PM PDT by apoliticalone (Be the person that your dog thinks you are........)
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Feminization of the warriors is just one of a multitude of fronts in Obama’s effort to undermine the U.S. Military.

VIDEO: Bill Whittle describes another way Obama is undermining the U.S. Military.

29 posted on 04/09/2015 3:59:09 AM PDT by Amagi (Lenin: "Socialized Medicine is the Keystone to the Arch of the Socialist State.")
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And they miss the obvious that there is a real difference between men and woman - the end goal is to turn the men into woman clones so everyone is equally incapable of the rigors of combat. I've know some very bright and capable females during my 24 years in uniform and another 15 working with the military as a civilian - the really cap[able ones understand that they can give their all without getting into a physical contest with the men who are better designed to withstand the rigors inherent in combat.

I also indulged in a bit of the martial arts and am well acquainted with the hard fact that the average female Black Belt will usually get trounced by the average male who doesn't have a Belt, but knows how to handle himself. Speed with power trumps.

30 posted on 04/09/2015 4:57:46 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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without a single female graduate

No surprise to me. As one who has humped a pack throughout many years of service (both in the Marines and Army) I can tell you that the extreme physical labor is not for most women. I have met a very few that possibly could have made it but those never had the desire.


31 posted on 04/09/2015 5:26:23 AM PDT by rfreedom4u (Do you know who Barry Soetoro is?)
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... but I thought GI Jane was real... So thinks many low info voters.


35 posted on 04/09/2015 7:21:53 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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