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1 posted on 04/02/2015 7:19:34 AM PDT by lifeofgrace
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Yet the strategists will not relent because they see Christianity as their entrenched enemy.


Most leftists will not admit that they view Christianity as their enemy. yet.
We need to understand that whether they admit it or not,
this is the goal - extermination.


2 posted on 04/02/2015 7:21:15 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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“There is no biological, physical evidence of “gay” DNA or other non-experience-based triggers for same-sex orientation.”

Some of that is by design. If they find a gay DNA marker, we would be able to determine who is gay and who is not. What if we find that Elton John or George Michaels or whoever don’t have this marker? That would lead down the path to “chosen lifestyle” which eliminates civil rights.


3 posted on 04/02/2015 7:23:12 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you are not part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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Gays want to destroy Christianity just as much as do Muslims.


6 posted on 04/02/2015 7:43:10 AM PDT by doug from upland (Obama and the leftists - destroying our country one day at a time)
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The acceptance of the argument that a genetic predisposition toward, or even a genetic determinant of, homoerotic desires would mean “God made people ‘gay’” is not a Christian position. Christian anthropology begins with Man made in the image and likeness of God, and continues with the Fall. The Fall disordered all creation, and there is no reason to think that this disorder is not to be found in the genome of fallen humanity — indeed the Augustinian conception of Original Sin, which as an Orthodox Christian I don’t accept, believing in the more nuanced notion of Ancestral Sin and the disordering of the passions set forth by the Greek Fathers, explicitly holds that sin, which is not the work of God, is inherited — each of us being born with particular besetting temptations.

That one is born with a genetic predisposition to acquisitiveness does not absolve him in advance of theft, that another is born with a genes that ensure she will have a bad temper does not mean that wrath is not a sin. No more does being born with either a predisposition or a genetic constellation that guarantees homoerotic desire mean that the condemnations of homoeroticism both in the Old Covenant Law and the letters of St. Paul are somehow invalid.


7 posted on 04/02/2015 7:43:28 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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Can we please quit using that archaic, outdated term ‘gay’ and revert back to the original, uncorrupted term ‘queer’. I think that this would help placate many hurt feelings.


9 posted on 04/02/2015 7:54:30 AM PDT by jlindseyx42 (Namaste)
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and it would be repugnant to look at it as a disease like Leukemia or a genetic disorder like Downs Syndrome.

Really? Why is that? Its an illness...its a defect...its a disordered mind...whatever it is, it is NOT normal and the louder they insist its normal the more you KNOW its not.


11 posted on 04/02/2015 8:00:53 AM PDT by Adder (No, Mr. Franklin, we could NOT keep it.)
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Did God say, "TOLERATE HOMOSEXUALS." ?
No!.
He did NOT !
This is what we get when we FAIL to OBEY God.
For it is written: Those who support homosexuals are against our Heavenly Father and His Son Jesus Christ.
These anti Christ people only bring destruction on us ALL.
I have NO sympathy for homosexuals!

Homosexuality is a "Mark" of disobedience.
Someone once asked The answer is in the definition of "REPROBATE". And the reason"why" is given in the Bible.

God has a cure for homosexuals.

"Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect
that God is just,
that his justice cannot sleep forever."


12 posted on 04/02/2015 8:04:40 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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But allow me to frame your statement in terms of presuppositions. If you believe any prayer to change your sexual orientation is fruitless, then it must follow that you believe that prayer has limits—that certain miracles do not, and cannot occur, such as gay people becoming straight. It must also follow that you believe that there’s no natural way for a gay person to become straight.

An excellent article, but it contains a few - albeit: very subtle - fallacious arguments.

1. There are indeed some limits to prayer, namely: logical as well as moral limits. (In fact, there are even logical and moral limits to God's power - including His power to answer prayer). Thus, it would be against the Natural Order to pray, e.g., that two plus two should equal five; and it would be immoral to pray that someone else should suffer a painful death.

It seems to me that praying to God that someone should be purified of his natural predisposition to Sin (e.g., the Sin of Lust - be it heterosexual or homosexual) would probably be either illogical or immoral. In any event, such prayer is probably "fruitless."

The grandfather might pray that his grandson be given the strength to resist temptation; that would certainly be acceptable.

Regards,

*DISCLAIMER: I am not a Theologian; I only play one on TV.

13 posted on 04/02/2015 8:04:42 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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In the 20th century it was well known that nearly all gays were the result of being raped as children, usually a family member or trusted friend of the family.

Since this started when they were young children, it feels to the gay person that they’ve always been that way.

Currently half of all child rapes committed in the US are committed by gays. Expect this number to increase.


17 posted on 04/02/2015 9:58:49 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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This is an outstanding and succinct article.


18 posted on 04/02/2015 11:22:46 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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Celebrate us or we will destroy you.


21 posted on 04/02/2015 1:59:27 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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I usually give two reasons for condemning homosexual behavior.

The first is ancient Greece in which pedophilia was a lifestyle. As this would have naturally crossed over, in many cases, into adult homosexuality, why didn’t the Greeks (and Romans to a like extent) ever raise the idea of homosexual marriage beyond a certain minority viewpoint?

I see the answer as the realization that it would have wreaked their whole societies even sooner than other socio-economic factors did anyway.

The other reason is the Jewish admonitions which I adhere to as gifting us with the concept of civilization with which American society could never have advanced so far - or even been founded - without its related Christian components.

What gifts that as a so-called “modern” society that we’ve become so anxious to squander.


36 posted on 04/04/2015 12:21:08 AM PDT by onedoug
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Leviticus 20:13
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Matthew 22:36-40
36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

The Word of God is never contradictory.

37 posted on 04/04/2015 1:11:59 AM PDT by Theophilus (Be as prolific as you are pro-life.)
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To: lifeofgrace
Leviticus 20:13
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Matthew 22:36-40
36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

The Word of God is never contradictory.

38 posted on 04/04/2015 1:12:23 AM PDT by Theophilus (Be as prolific as you are pro-life.)
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