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Can Hillary be disbarred for spoliation of evidence?
3/30/2015 | Vanity

Posted on 03/31/2015 4:09:06 PM PDT by Usagi_yo

Title say's it all. Is she still licensed to practice?

What standing do you need to put that question before the appropriate Bar?


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: emails; hillary; spoliation
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1 posted on 03/31/2015 4:09:06 PM PDT by Usagi_yo
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To: Usagi_yo
I thought she already agreed to disbarrment years ago.

/johnny

2 posted on 03/31/2015 4:10:40 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

That was Bill iirc.


3 posted on 03/31/2015 4:11:34 PM PDT by Usagi_yo (The wealth gap is actually a privilege gap.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
me too J

Thought that happen when Bill was governor of Arkansas.

4 posted on 03/31/2015 4:12:21 PM PDT by mware
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To: Usagi_yo

Evidence in what court proceeding?


5 posted on 03/31/2015 4:12:54 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: Usagi_yo

She’s not going to be disbarred without there being some specific proceeding or a legal obligation to maintain or produce the records and then a finding she violated a legal obligation, or destroyed records she was supposed to preserve in connection with a subpoena or proceeding of some kind.

In other words, unlikely. Though it is possible if the records were subject to a subpoena when she erased them.


6 posted on 03/31/2015 4:18:29 PM PDT by Williams
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To: Williams

My thought was the “process” at issue was the subpoena, and the fact she knew she has under subpoena and did not take steps to preserve evidence. I also have been thinking about the sort of written discovery undertaken by the House during any/all Benghazi investigations. Since depos happen, I wonder if Interrogs/RFP were issued demanding production of all documents witnesses possessed relating to the terror attack (I mean, video retaliation).


7 posted on 03/31/2015 4:21:31 PM PDT by guido911 (Islamic terrorists are members http://www.freerepublic.com/foof the "ROP", the "religion of pu*&ies")
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DID SHE EVER MISLEAD A COURT? Some of Hillary's correspondence was recently released to AP as part of a Freedom of Information Act request AP had filed in 2013. The news service sought all correspondence between Mrs. Clinton and senior advisers over a four-year period relating to drone strikes and U.S. surveillance programs overseas.(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...

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The MOST IMPORTANT POINT IN THIS REVELATION is that Hillary used an I-Pad to email....a device she has not disclosed....and was not authorized by State Dept security

Remember---at her UN presser---to cover her tracks ---Clinton asserted she chose a personal account over a government one out of convenience, describing it as a way to carry a single device, rather than one for work e-mails and another for personal messages." Looking back, it would have been probably, you know, smarter to have used two devices," Clinton said. Her office that day released a statement saying she "wanted the simplicity of using one device."

JUDICIAL WATCH REPORTED---On at least half a dozen occasions Clinton’s top aides asked the State Department’s Office of Security Technology to approve the use of an iPad and iPhone, according to JW’s inside source. Each time the request was rejected for security reasons, the source confirms.

The only mobile device that meets the agency’s security standards is the BlackBerry, JW’s source said, adding that the Office of Security Technology—Bureau of Diplomatic Security’s Directorate of Countermeasures must approve all equipment such as cameras, phones and communication devices for all officials.

Evidently set on using the popular Apple devices, Clinton repeatedly challenged the ban and asked management in the Office of Security Technology to allow their use. The executive secretariat responsible for all communications and information technology always rejected the requests, JW’s source affirms.

“From day one Hillary was trying to get the iPhone and the iPad approved,” the State Department official told JW. “She kept trying and trying to get us to approve the iPhone and the iPad, but we wouldn’t do it. Technology security experts tested the iPhone and the iPad several times because she constantly wanted them approved, but it never happened.”

The longtime State Department employee reveals that it’s common knowledge among government security tech experts that Apple devices don’t meet strict security standards so agency insiders were puzzled that the Secretary of State was hell-bent on using them. “There was a lot of head-scratching,” JW’s source revealed. Every State Department employee goes through a rigorous security training that includes strict warnings about using non approved equipment or personal email like Clinton did throughout her tenure as the president’s chief foreign affairs officer, the agency insider said.

Clinton’s persistent efforts to persuade the State Department’s technology security experts to approve the use of her favorite Apple devices led those in the division to conclude that she did in fact go through with it.

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EVEN EARLIER---Fox has Hillary on video wherein Hillary tells a tech conference in California: “I have, you know, an iPad, a mini iPad, an iPhone and a Blackberry”.....

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Cong Jason Chaffetz, Trey Gowdy and Sen Grassley need to start w/ the federal Office of Management and Budget (OMB):

<><> get the documents which list Sen and Secy Hillary's govt-issue electronic devices, and whether they were returned;

<><> the entire range of tax-paid outlays to finance ex-pres Clinton....including electronics at his Harlem office, his home in Chappaqua, and hand-held devices in his possession.

8 posted on 03/31/2015 4:22:01 PM PDT by Liz (Another Clinton administration? Are you nuts?)
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To: Usagi_yo
I thought it was both. She had the cattle futures thing going on.

/johnny

9 posted on 03/31/2015 4:25:49 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: Williams; ElkGroveDan

Well, I figure the threshold for disbarment is way lower than say criminal proceedings, and the legal dictionaries are all pretty clear about spoliation of evidence and adverse inference and spoliation inference.

There doesn’t have to be an actual trial, just a reasonable expectation that the documents would be needed in an investigation.


10 posted on 03/31/2015 4:27:34 PM PDT by Usagi_yo (The wealth gap is actually a privilege gap.)
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To: Usagi_yo

What difference, at this point, does it make ?

Anyway, we have two disbarred lawyers occupying the White Hut/Mosque presently. Why would Killary be disbarred for this...she hadn’t been disbarred for all her previous nefarious activities.


11 posted on 03/31/2015 4:28:12 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: Ouderkirk

Yeah, the question doesn’t really make sense. She’s untouchable.


12 posted on 03/31/2015 4:33:31 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("Victim" -- some people eagerly take on the label because of the many advantages that come with it.)
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To: Ouderkirk

Being disbarred before running for President would be like an 8 lb iron ball chained to her ankle. She can run, but not very far or fast.

Why you say? Because the investigation of Benghazi has been going on for quite some time. Documents were requested from the State Department and not produced because they weren’t produced in full by Hillary.

Watching a news cast, Hillary erased the emails between oct 2014 and January 2015.

” ... “While it is not clear precisely when Secretary Clinton decided to permanently delete all emails from her server, it appears she made the decision after October 28, 2014, when the Department of State for the first time asked the Secretary to return her public record to the department. ...”

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2015/03/27/Rep-Gowdy-Hillary-Clinton-wiped-clean-email-server/7241427501228/


13 posted on 03/31/2015 4:33:52 PM PDT by Usagi_yo (The wealth gap is actually a privilege gap.)
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To: Usagi_yo

But, but, it’s Hillary’s turn to be president.


14 posted on 03/31/2015 4:37:45 PM PDT by Slyfox (I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just: that his justice cannot sleep for ever)
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To: Usagi_yo

Nah. For any number of reasons but there was no pending Court proceeding nor was there one pending or likely pending. It needs to almost rise to the level of obstruction and, not, this doesn’t.


15 posted on 03/31/2015 4:37:55 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: ClearCase_guy
If congress put in any meaningful effort, she's toast. Her cod piece has been ripped away and the Belly of the Beast has a soft spot exposed.

She is in deep trouble. Look how much Gowdy is bending over backwards. Private "transcripted" meeting sounds a lot like testifying. He knows he's got her if Boehner lets him loose. He's fly fishing and he's got a 22 lb lumbering carp on the hook. He's gotta take it slow and steady.

16 posted on 03/31/2015 4:38:28 PM PDT by Usagi_yo (The wealth gap is actually a privilege gap.)
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To: RIghtwardHo
" no pending Court proceeding"

There does not have to be a pending court proceeding. It's already pointed out and proven science that The state department requested all public records from Hillary so they can respond to congressional investigators. After which, she sent 30k and deleted some 30k

Her excuse is, they weren't public records that she deleted -- and therein is the spoliation.

17 posted on 03/31/2015 4:43:45 PM PDT by Usagi_yo (The wealth gap is actually a privilege gap.)
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To: Usagi_yo
I would like to know the FACTs, instead of the speculation that is so rampant here on FR.

If you find out for sure, with documentation, I would really like to know.

I ignore a lot of the 'what difference does it make' stuff these days.

Facts matter. Trust but verify. ;)

/johnny

18 posted on 03/31/2015 4:44:20 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: Usagi_yo

Does it even matter.

I can think of a other husband and wife team who have lost their law licenses and will bank more money than God.


19 posted on 03/31/2015 4:45:54 PM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: Usagi_yo

Disbarment is no deterrent to a person who doesn’t practice law or believe in it.


20 posted on 03/31/2015 4:57:07 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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