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Gee, do you think this is relevant? Germanwings co-pilot reported to be a 'recent convert to Islam'
Israel Matzav ^ | 3/26/15 | Carl in Jerusalem

Posted on 03/26/2015 4:56:03 PM PDT by Nachum

Many in the politically correct media are becoming annoyed with questions regarding the religious beliefs of Germanwings co-pilot Andreas Gunter Lubitz. Lubitz locked the pilot out of the cabin of an Airbus A-320 jet over the French Alps on Tuesday and crashed the plane into a mountain at 434 miles per hour, killing himself and murdering an additional 140 people.
Questions about the religious background of Andreas Lubitz, the Germanwings pilot who investigators said deliberately crashed a plane in the French Alps this week, killing all on board, have sparked outrage and debate about whether such information is relevant to the investigation. When a reporter asked French Prosecutor Brice Robin of Marseille, during a news conference Thursday, whether he knew Lubitz’s religion, Robin said he did not know and added, “I don’t think that’s where the answer to this lies.”

The question suggested that Lubitz’s religious background was relevant to the investigation behind the pilot’s alleged deliberate downing of Germanwings Flight 9525 on Tuesday. Robin said the crash did not show any signs of terrorism. Some were appalled by the reporter’s inquiry.

“This line of questioning makes no sense to me whatsoever,” said Elizabeth Shakman Hurd, an associate professor of political science with a courtesy appointment in religious studies at Northwestern University in Illinois. “I find it disturbing and depressing that at a time like this some people feel compelled to search desperately for explanations that presume religious causation.”

Really, Professor Hurd? NO SENSE? It's all just a coincidence?
In 1999, the pilot of a Boeing 767 intentionally plunged the fully loaded plane into the Atlantic Ocean 30 minutes after takeoff from New York City on a nonstop flight to Cairo. An investigation found the pilot, Gamal al-Batouti, had said several times in Arabic, “I rely on God,” as the plane's autopilot function was disconnected and Egypt Air 999 plunged. The phrase is often associated with the moments before death.

The U.S. National Transportation Safety Board concluded that no mechanical event could have caused the plane to dive. But Egyptian officials never accepted the conclusion that al-Batouti had intentionally crashed, and conspiracy theories spread.

And another one that this article does not mention: Malaysia Airlines 370.
Investigators are now telling the London Telegraph that Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 was taken on a suicide mission.

The team investigating the Boeing 777’s disappearance believe no malfunction or fire was capable of causing the aircraft’s unusual flight or the disabling of its communications system before it veered wildly off course on a seven-hour silent flight into the sea. An analysis of the flight’s routing, signalling and communications shows that it was flown “in a rational way”.

An official source told The Telegraph that investigators believe “this has been a deliberate act by someone on board who had to have had the detailed knowledge to do what was done ... Nothing is emerging that points to motive.”

Asked about the possibility of a plane malfunction or an on-board fire, the source said: “It just does not hinge together... [The investigators] have gone through processes you do to get the plane where it flew to for eight hours. They point to it being flown in a rational way.” 

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The flight remains shrouded in mystery and misinformation. Malaysia Airlines revealed for the first time yesterday that Fariq Abdul Hamid, the 27-year-old co-pilot, was on his first flight aboard a Boeing 777 as a fully-approved pilot. Fariq joined the airline seven years ago and had flown 2,763 hours but was only on his sixth flight in the cockpit of a 777 – and his first without a check pilot overseeing him.


But analysts said the co-pilot’s inexperience in a 777 cockpit would probably not have posed a risk.

Somewhat surprisingly, Malaysia Airlines said last night its “prayers go out to all the loved ones of the 226 passengers and of our 13 friends and colleagues” – even though the passenger manifest shows 227 passengers and 12 crew. The airline has not yet explained the discrepancy.

Would not have posed a risk, but would have made it much more likely that it took him a while to figure out what was going on. And most of the passengers probably never knew what happened.  Unless someone had a transponder (unlikely), most passengers on a flight like that would just go to sleep. The crew probably served dinner without realizing what their captain had done. From the families' perspective, they might take some solace in the fact that the passengers probably died peacefully - many of them in their sleep.

The captain - distraught over a divorce and over his political idol being jailed, and devout in his Muslim religion (that which must never be mentioned) - took them all down with him.
While French authorities are refusing to discuss Lubitz's religion,  Christian websites are reporting that Lubitz was a recent convert to Islam.
It was said that Lubitz had a Muslim girlfriend. It is unclear if she was still dating Lubitz at the time of the crash. It is unclear if he met the woman through his Muslims friends.

One said that Lubitz had broken off the relationship after he pledged to commit Jihad for Allah.

We do know that Lubitz trained at the Lufthansa Flight Training School in Bremen, Germany.

Bremen is home to the Mosque Masjidu-l-Furqan Mosque:

This Mosque was raided by the police in December 2014

BERLIN, Dec 5 (KUNA) — German authorities have closed a mosque in the northern city of Bremen, after it was accused of encouraging youth to join the extremist Islamic State group (known as ISIL), which is carrying out violent killings across Syria and Iraq.

In unprecedented circumstances, more than 100 German police personnel carried out a search of Masjidu-l-Furqan and its accompanying cultural office, which had both been under police radar since 2007.

The decision comes amid the fight against ISIL ideology, Bremen Interior Secretary Ulrich Maurer said, accusing the mosque’s management of promoting ISIL values and encouraging young Muslims in the city to travel to Syria and Iraq, and join the ranks of the group, along with Al-Nusra Front – another extremist group in Syria.

The centre have so far succeeded in inspiring a total eight men, seven women and 11 juveniles to travel to Syria and join ISIL, according to the official.
Lubitz did his time in Bremen when the Mosque was under surveillance.

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Lubitz converted to Islam during his break.

Reason that pushed Lubitz over the edge? The raid on the Mosque in Breman  this past December?

The Police say they found a significant discovery in his home - not a suicide note:

Police investigating the Germanwings crash said they had made a 'significant discovery' at the home of co-pilot Andreas Lubitz, who deliberately ploughed the Airbus A320 into the French Alps. Officers refused to reveal details of the potential breakthrough but said it was not a suicide note. Speaking outside the flat on the outskirts of Dusseldorf, police said they had 'found something' that would now be taken for tests, adding it may be a 'clue' as to what happened to the doomed jet. Daily Mail Read More>>>
Is the significant discovery something Islamic? Something on his computer? A Koran? A Muslim prayer rug?
And for those of you who - like me - have the choice of flying Israeli, European or American airlines, here is a sobering thought:
The A320 is designed with safeguards to allow emergency entry if a pilot inside is unresponsive, but the override code known to the crew does not go into effect — and indeed goes into a lockdown — if the person inside the cockpit specifically denies entry, according to an Airbus training video and a pilot who has six years of experience with the jets.

Airlines in Europe are not required to have two people in the cockpit at all times, unlike the standard U.S. operating procedure after the 9/11 attacks changed to require a flight attendant to take the spot of a briefly departing pilot.

Sounds like the US procedure is a good idea. I don't know what the Israeli procedure is, but I would guess there is some kind of safeguard to keep a lone pilot from crashing a plane. 


What a sad commentary on our times that these things are necessary.


TOPICS: Religion
KEYWORDS: andreaslubitz; atcaflightschool; az; bremen; convert; copilot; europeanunion; flightschool; flt9525; france; germanwings; germany; islam; lubitzislamist; lubitzreligion; lufthansa; nato; phoenix; waronterror
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To: lulu16
This was Andreas Lubitz' Facebook page:


61 posted on 03/26/2015 5:44:03 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: lulu16
I didn't take the screen shot, I just saw it here: Germanwings co-pilot praised on Facebook: ‘Our holy martyr Lubitz died for our prophet’

Sorry, I should have given the source.

62 posted on 03/26/2015 5:46:24 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: dfwgator
We only have to take out a couple of their shrine cities to effectively end their 1400 year war against mankind.

Why haven't we done it yet? Until their murder cult centers are rendered void their assault on humanity will continue unabated.

63 posted on 03/26/2015 5:46:39 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Genesis 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed,)
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To: Toespi

150 killed is terrorism whether Muslim or not. This certainly creates some fear to flying this airlines.


64 posted on 03/26/2015 5:47:07 PM PDT by Lumper20 ( clown in Chief has own Gov employees Gestapo)
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To: Vince Ferrer

Vince, murder in the name of suicide per the media. Believe it or not ....


65 posted on 03/26/2015 5:49:41 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Nachum

We all know it is the religion of pieces. If it quacks like a Mooselimb, it is a Mooselimb.


66 posted on 03/26/2015 5:50:44 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: Nachum

We need facts, not guesses.
If the man was a recent convert that would explain it, but we need to know if it’s true.


67 posted on 03/26/2015 5:50:47 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: TigersEye
just another ROP monster who wants to KILL....

when will people wake up to these animals....

68 posted on 03/26/2015 5:51:56 PM PDT by cherry
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To: I want the USA back
We need facts, not guesses.

if only it were to be ... yet in the media they want guesses to be their facts.

69 posted on 03/26/2015 5:53:50 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Nachum
Ive noticed with any heinous disaster like a plane crash the scumedia is quick to unrelate this to terrorism or a terrorist act.
70 posted on 03/26/2015 5:53:54 PM PDT by ronnie raygun (Empty head empty suit = arrogant little bastard)
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If that’s only his girlfriend, why does she have the same last name?


71 posted on 03/26/2015 5:54:32 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Certified Islamophobe..)
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To: ronnie raygun

The official announcement is usually “the cause of the accident is under investigation but terrorism has been ruled out”.. I mean how can you rule anything out if it is under investigation?


72 posted on 03/26/2015 5:55:50 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: rawcatslyentist
WWII Jap Kamikazes!

That's actually unfair to Kamikazi pilots. At least they were soldiers serving their country, and they attacked military targets. They didn't go out on their own and murder a bunch of civilians.

73 posted on 03/26/2015 5:56:40 PM PDT by Hugin ("Do yourself a favor--first thing, get a firearm!")
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To: central_va

we are the government and don’t you go there ... Okay?


74 posted on 03/26/2015 5:57:18 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: cardinal4

Lubitz is apparently a place name in east Prussia so there will be unrelated Germans and probably a few Slavs and Jews with the name. The old Austrian Empire required official family (last) names and a lot of families just took a place name.


75 posted on 03/26/2015 5:59:58 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: jonatron; hlmencken3

Thanks for the feedback.


76 posted on 03/26/2015 6:00:52 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Nachum

Welcome to Jihad Airlines.


77 posted on 03/26/2015 6:07:51 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: eyedigress

What about his training in Phoenix. We’re the 9/11 hijackers in AZ learning how to fly but not to land here, too.


78 posted on 03/26/2015 6:08:43 PM PDT by lulu16 (May the Good Lord take a liking to you!)
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To: Nachum

I was just watching Fox News, and on Megyn Kelly’s show they were discussing how authorities have ruled out terrorism.

How could they possibly rule out terrorism at this point?

There is no way they have completed any sort of investigation into this man’s possible motivations.

I am really starting to wonder at this point just how many of these planes that have mysteriously gone done or disappeared had muslim pilots that we are being lied to about.


79 posted on 03/26/2015 6:13:35 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless)
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To: Nachum

Knew it! Said the very thing to the wife about an hour ago.


80 posted on 03/26/2015 6:22:11 PM PDT by jmacusa (Liberalism defined: When mom and dad go away for the weekend and the kids are in charge.)
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