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The Twilight of Guiliani
The Mahablog - Making the World Safe for Liberalism ^ | February 22, 2015

Posted on 02/22/2015 5:39:21 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Those of us who have lived in the NYC area going back to his tenure knew Rudy Giuliani to be a petty, controlling narcissist all along, but when put on the spot to do so he could behave himself, as he did after 9/11 when the television cameras of the world were upon him. But lately he’s been letting his True Rudy flag fly.

His recent comment that he doesn’t know if the President loves America has brought on a lot of commentary about Giuliani’s sad self-destruction, It’s been a long time coming; he pretty much lost his post-9/11 glow among New Yorkers during the 2004 Republican convention. Rudy is erratic; even as mayor, he could be the soul of good sense one minute and a racist, bomb-throwing ferret-hating loon the next. He had a good run as “America’s Mayor,” but Rudy being Rudy, it wasn’t going to last forever.

The best commentary I’ve seen so far on Rudy’s latest episode of yelling at clouds is by Matt Taibbi. It begins:

Rudy Giuliani is giving me Soviet flashbacks.

With his bizarre foot-in-mouth rants about how Barack Obama doesn’t love “America” the way “we” do, Rudy — and other “They hate us!” exceptionalist ‘Muricans like Eric Erickson and Steve Forbes — are starting to remind me of the frightened, denial-sick communist die-hards I knew as a student in Russia.

Taibbi goes on to say that in 1990 he went to Leningrad to study, and so watched the Soviet Union in its death throes. He observes that the Soviets had a strong sense of exceptionalism that clashed with, um, reality.

But the problem with exceptionalism is that it can turn unintentionally comic with the drop of a hat. You’re made to believe you’re at the center of an envious universe, but then the world changes just enough and suddenly you’re a punchline clinging to a lot of incoherent emotions. I watched this happen with my own eyes to a lot of people in the former Soviet Union.

And I feel like it’s happening here now, with Rudy and the rest of the exceptionalist die-hards. They’re hanging on to a conception of us that doesn’t really exist anymore, not realizing that “America” is now a deeply varied, rapidly-changing place, one incidentally that they spend a lot of their public lives declaring they can’t stand.

This was all on display this past week. Rudy’s bizarre, Internet-maelstrom-inspiring media tour began with remarks at a private dinner for Scott Walker. People focused on the insult to Obama, but just as interesting was the apostrophic address to a conspiratorial and exclusive you and me America of his imagination:

I do not believe — and I know this is a horrible thing to say — but I do not believe that the president loves America. . . He doesn’t love you. And he doesn’t love me. He wasn’t brought up the way you were brought up and I was brought up through love of this country.

Rudy was ripped by pretty much everyone to the left of James Dobson for these comments, with the White House snarkily commenting, “It was a horrible thing to say.”…

…Characteristically, and with a trial lawyer’s bravado, Rudy tried to talk his way out of the mess, rambling in self-defense to Bloomberg, CNN, Fox and anyone else who would listen. At each stop he doubled down on his remarks, concluding the tour with an incoherent rant to the New York Times in which he denied his comments about Obama were racist “since [Obama] was brought up by a white mother.”

God knows what that meant — reading this was like watching Mark Fuhrman undergo hypnosis therapy — but it was fascinating stuff.

This is my favorite part:

Conservative politicians like Rudy are a bizarre combination of constant, withering, redundant whining about Actual Current America, mixed with endless demands that we all stand up and profess our love for some other America, one that apparently doesn’t include a lot of the rest of us or the things about this country we like.

I feel sorry for Rudy that he can’t love this country the way it is. I love America even with @$$holes like him living in it. In fact, I’m immensely proud of our @$$holes; I think America has the best @$$holes in the world. I defy the Belgians or the Japanese to produce something like a Donald Trump. If that makes me an exceptionalist, I plead guilty.

You’ve got to admit he’s got a point about Donald Trump.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: giuliani; media; newyork; obama
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This is driving the Left insane. There must be something about this that is panicking them.
1 posted on 02/22/2015 5:39:22 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Rudy’s not afraid of the Left & doesn’t care what they think. THAT is what’s freaking them out.

Go ye and do likewise, Republicans!


2 posted on 02/22/2015 5:42:20 PM PST by elcid1970 ("I: am a radicalized infidel.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

When somebody of Giuliani’s stature publicly says what everybody is thinking, he must attacked immediately.


3 posted on 02/22/2015 5:43:45 PM PST by oldbrowser (We have a rogue government in Washington)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It is odd how rabid they are about it.


4 posted on 02/22/2015 5:43:45 PM PST by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: elcid1970

Way to go Rudy! I am very proud of you.

For real.


5 posted on 02/22/2015 5:44:22 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
to be a petty, controlling narcissist all along

Pretty good description of the other guy, though. BTW, this leftist dork didn't get the memo about Taibibi

6 posted on 02/22/2015 5:46:04 PM PST by gusopol3
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“... I think America has the best @$$holes in the world....”

Outing himself as a “little queer”?


7 posted on 02/22/2015 5:47:46 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (Benghazi Clinton killed 4 & injured a dozen as SOS, imagine what she could do as CinC.)
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To: cripplecreek

They are focusing on the messanger and ignoring why he is saying it. He’s saying a lot of information that is written in Obama’s own books by his own hand. Someone should point that out to the lib idiots.


8 posted on 02/22/2015 5:48:04 PM PST by dandiegirl (BO)
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To: cripplecreek

It isn’t the least bit odd.

In folklore, a vampire cringes at the merest hint of sunlight. Such are Demoncrats.


9 posted on 02/22/2015 5:49:23 PM PST by workerbee (The President of the United States is PUBLIC ENEMY #1)
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To: dandiegirl

I’m just asking liberals what they love about America.

The fact that they can only say “Obama”, “Universal health care” and “gay marriage” is rather telling.


10 posted on 02/22/2015 5:51:21 PM PST by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m wondering how long before the loons start talking about involuntary committal to “get Guiliani the help he so obviously needs...”


11 posted on 02/22/2015 5:51:50 PM PST by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Criticize, marginalize, demonize, criminalize.

We know the drill.

They’ve jumped on Rudy so fast and so hard that they know they’re vulnerable there. I think that vulnerability goes beyond Obama and encompasses most of his cabinet and senior leaders of the Democrat party.


12 posted on 02/22/2015 5:52:59 PM PST by Usagi_yo
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The only problem is that Rudy prefaced it with “ this is a horrible thing to say”....

Instead he should have said what he said, without the preface.

Or got right down to an outright beat down. You dance, you get hung.


13 posted on 02/22/2015 5:53:29 PM PST by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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This is driving the Left insane. There must be something about this that is panicking them.

Yeah, this: it's true, it's undeniable, it's obvious, and it's poison.

14 posted on 02/22/2015 5:54:58 PM PST by Steely Tom (Vote GOP for A Slower Handbasket)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He spoke the truth they all know is the truth but are doing everything they can to hide it because they’re selfish ass mofos. They would rather see the country burned to the ground, would rather see a nuclear war break out between Israel and Iran, they would rather see millions of people killed rather than admit they made a massive mistake by electing Obama.


15 posted on 02/22/2015 5:55:52 PM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Obama: 12 acts of blatant treason and counting)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is great! We need people on our side to speak out like this every, oh, two hours or so. The respondent torrents of verbal garbage spewed by the 0bamabot media would be most entertaining!


16 posted on 02/22/2015 5:56:16 PM PST by W. (Dem0crat-mandated education reform killed American progress. Thanks, morons!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Some people love American the way I used to love the Soviet Union back in the day, always praying they would see the light and have a free, capitalistic country like ours.


17 posted on 02/22/2015 5:57:49 PM PST by firebrand
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To: cripplecreek

Rabid, indeed! What is coming out of their mouths is incoherent foam. It is completely irrational.


18 posted on 02/22/2015 5:58:37 PM PST by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: Usagi_yo

This is great.

Seriously. Of all the people for them to do this to, I think Giuliani will actually stand up, as well.


19 posted on 02/22/2015 6:00:08 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The writer might have spent a summer sleeping on a friends couch in Bushwick. That makes he/she an expert.


20 posted on 02/22/2015 6:01:13 PM PST by 9thLife ("Life is a military endeavor..." -- Pope Francis)
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