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What if Obama Just Gave Gitmo Back to Cuba?
Radix News ^ | February 5, 2015 | James S. Robbins

Posted on 02/05/2015 12:21:38 PM PST by Abakumov

Cuba wants Guantánamo Bay back. And if President Obama wanted to, he could just give it to them.

The White House has lately been pushing for normalizing relations with Cuba, which have been suspended since the 1959 communist revolution. President Raúl Castro said that one precondition for normalizing ties with the United States would be returning the 45 square mile U.S.-controlled territory at Guantánamo Bay. Though most noted for its terrorist detainee facility, the U.S. has maintained a naval station there for over 100 years. Last week, White House spokesman Josh Earnest rejected Castro’s demand, saying that while President Obama would like to see the prison shut down, “the naval base is not something that we wish to be closed.”

So they say. The White House also says Iran should not develop a nuclear weapon, and look how that effort is going. After a few rounds of tough negotiations with the Cubans the U.S. position on Guantánamo is certain to “evolve.”

So could Mr. Obama simply hand Gitmo back to the Cubans? It looks like he can.

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TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: cuba; gitmo; obama
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1 posted on 02/05/2015 12:21:38 PM PST by Abakumov
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To: Abakumov
Forget Gitmo.

Let's give Obama to Cuba

2 posted on 02/05/2015 12:24:39 PM PST by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: Abakumov

Better Question: What if America gave Obama back to Kenya?


3 posted on 02/05/2015 12:24:53 PM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Mad Dawgg

Jimmy Carter did give the Panama canal to Panama who leased it to China.


4 posted on 02/05/2015 12:26:05 PM PST by scooby321
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To: Abakumov

The treaty was stated “In perpetuity”. So was the one for the Panama Canal. How’d that work out under the “Peanut Vendor”?


5 posted on 02/05/2015 12:29:44 PM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Abakumov

I believe the United States has a defined policy on how military bases are closed, as well as how surplus property is disposed of. Applications are available online, and available in Spanish. Cuba should fill them out, they might get lucky.


6 posted on 02/05/2015 12:35:07 PM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: Don Corleone

The Senate still had to ratify the Panama Canal thing for Jimmy Carter.


7 posted on 02/05/2015 12:36:18 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Abakumov

CAN he just give it back to them?

Article 1, Section 8

Congress shall have the power...

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

Would purchase or sale of land, even a zero cost transaction, be considered commerce?


8 posted on 02/05/2015 12:37:39 PM PST by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: scooby321

But I do not think he did it unilaterally.


9 posted on 02/05/2015 12:38:21 PM PST by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: Don Corleone
How’d that work out under the “Peanut Vendor”?

Unfortunately the "Peanut Vendor" has never suffered for any the crap he while president or after it was always American citizens as well as the free people of the world who suffered for asinine decisions.

10 posted on 02/05/2015 12:42:41 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: scooby321

PS - Negotiation of what became know as the the Torrijos-Carter treaties, which ultimately turned the canal over to Panama, began in 1974 - 2 years before Carter was elected.

He most definitely signed the treaties, but the idea of giving up the canal did not originate with him.


11 posted on 02/05/2015 12:44:27 PM PST by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: Abakumov
President Raúl Castro said that one precondition for normalizing ties with the United States would be returning the 45 square mile U.S.-controlled territory at Guantánamo Bay.

I'm sure surrendering Gitmo had already been discussed in order to deliver the last terrorists to Castro, and finish with his many election promises. :-(

12 posted on 02/05/2015 12:50:09 PM PST by Does so (SCOTUS Newbies Imperil USA...)
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To: Mastador1

What you say about Carter is true, but giving away the canal was actually not his idea.

From:

http://history.state.gov/milestones/1977-1980/panama-canal

“Secretary of State Henry Kissinger set forth his reasoning [for turning the canal over the Pananma] in a meeting with President Ford in 1975: “If these [Canal] negotiations fail, we will be beaten to death in every international forum and there will be riots all over Latin America.” In 1973, the Nixon administration appointed Ellsworth Bunker, a seasoned U.S. diplomat, to lead the U.S. delegation. Bunker focused on ensuring perpetual U.S. use of the Panama Canal, rather than perpetual U.S. control of the Panama Canal Zone. Between the years of 1973 and 1976, Bunker and his team were able to conclude a series of draft agreements with the government of Panama that formed the foundation of the eventual Torrijos-Carter Treaties.”


13 posted on 02/05/2015 12:50:38 PM PST by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: kingu
I believe the United States has a defined policy on how military bases are closed, as well as how surplus property is disposed of

The United States has immigration and border control laws too. Or it used to before Our Glorious Leader became the law.

14 posted on 02/05/2015 1:02:54 PM PST by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continues)
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To: Abakumov

I fully expect him to do this before he leave office. It hit me when he decided to normalize relations with Cuba out of the blue. I think its already a done deal with the Castro’s


15 posted on 02/05/2015 1:16:40 PM PST by BobinIL
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To: Abakumov
What if Obama Just Gave Gitmo Back to Cuba?

I believe that is why he is so anxious to empty it of the islamic terrorists. Of course it would be a TREASONABLE OFFENSE, but I've yet to see anyone in DC, with the possible exception of Trey Gowdy, willing to uphold their oath to defend The Constitution.

16 posted on 02/05/2015 1:25:35 PM PST by The Sons of Liberty (OK. Now How many votes do we need to IMPEACH and REMOVE the bastard?)
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To: Abakumov

Why wouldn’t he? It’s obvious the Repubs are all spineless and ‘nadless and would do nothing more than a little bluster.


17 posted on 02/05/2015 1:29:34 PM PST by afsnco
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To: Don Corleone
O'Badinga can reccomend return to Cuba
but he can't take unilateral action without Congress.
Russia would love to have a base within 90 miles of the Continental U.S.A.
All our missle defenses are for cross Ocean and over the Artic
but nothing from a Southern threat (from Cuba) .
18 posted on 02/05/2015 1:54:59 PM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: Abakumov

I think because it takes a Senate vote to adopt a treaty, it probably takes a Senate vote to Abrogate a treaty.

But I’m not sure of if I’m correct, or if the GOP will do anything about it anyway.


19 posted on 02/05/2015 2:02:20 PM PST by Usagi_yo (It's not possible to give success. Only opportunity. Success is earned on it's own right.)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

What if he commands our military not to defend GITMO?


20 posted on 02/05/2015 2:20:24 PM PST by AZLiberty (No tag today.)
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