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To: eastforker
Yup, absolutely no freedom at all, people like you want to do the same thing here like all nanny staters.

It is a mockery of the word "freedom" to equate it to drug usage. You might just as well to the freedom of buggering animals. It has nothing to do with freedom, and everything to do with hedonistic indulgence.

As Edmund Burke said:

Men are qualified for civil liberty in exact proportion to their disposition to put moral chains upon their own appetites, — in proportion as their love to justice is above their rapacity, — in proportion as their soundness and sobriety of understanding is above their vanity and presumption, — in proportion as they are more disposed to listen to the counsels of the wise and good, in preference to the flattery of knaves. Society cannot exist, unless a controlling power upon will and appetite be placed somewhere; and the less of it there is within, the more there must be without. It is ordained in the eternal constitution of things, that men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters.

Grow up.

233 posted on 02/02/2015 4:06:29 PM PST by DiogenesLamp
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To: DiogenesLamp
It has nothing to do with freedom, and everything to do with hedonistic indulgence.

You do love absolutes.

234 posted on 02/02/2015 4:09:25 PM PST by tacticalogic
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To: DiogenesLamp

Burke also said this.

Burke was a leading sceptic with respect to democracy. While admitting that theoretically, in some cases it might be desirable, he insisted a democratic government in Britain in his day would not only be inept, but also oppressive. He opposed democracy for three basic reasons. First, government required a degree of intelligence and breadth of knowledge of the sort that occurred rarely among the common people. Second, he thought that if they had the vote, common people had dangerous and angry passions that could be aroused easily by demagogues; he feared that the authoritarian impulses that could be empowered by these passions would undermine cherished traditions and established religion, leading to violence and confiscation of property. Third, Burke warned that democracy would create a tyranny over unpopular minorities, who needed the protection of the upper classes.[62]

In other words he thought people were too stupid to govern themselves.


241 posted on 02/02/2015 4:17:55 PM PST by eastforker (Cruz for steam in 2016)
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To: DiogenesLamp

With Great Freedom comes Great responsibility.

~ Responsibility2nd

How these liberal stoners think freedom can flourish under a hazy cloud of dope is beyond me.


251 posted on 02/02/2015 4:45:06 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (See Ya On The Road; Al Baby's Mom!)
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To: DiogenesLamp
It is ordained in the eternal constitution of things, that men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters.

Your Burke quotation establishes that marijuana legalization "has nothing to do with freedom" only under the baseless assumption that all marijuana use is "intemperate."

291 posted on 02/03/2015 10:21:53 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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