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Supreme Court Rules 8-1 Citizens Have No Protection Against 4th Amendment Violations by Police
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| 12-26-14
| John Whitehead
Posted on 12/26/2014 7:31:29 PM PST by TurboZamboni
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To: old curmudgeon
You understand perfectly.
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posted on
01/03/2015 8:27:28 PM PST
by
sport
To: amihow
That was then, this is not. The philosophy has changed.
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posted on
01/03/2015 8:28:26 PM PST
by
sport
To: jsanders2001
If you enjoy going to jail you can.
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posted on
01/03/2015 8:29:07 PM PST
by
sport
To: Mr Rogers
What law school did you graduate from and when?
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posted on
01/03/2015 8:32:50 PM PST
by
sport
To: doc1019
And worse yet, no one gives a damn.
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posted on
01/03/2015 8:34:41 PM PST
by
sport
To: tacticalogic
Enforcement is not the point of focus. The point of focus is the controlling of the slaves. They use the enforcement mechanization as a means of control.
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posted on
01/03/2015 8:38:45 PM PST
by
sport
To: sport
I haven’t gone to law school. However, unlike many on this thread, I’ve read the entire NC Supreme Court decision and the entire US Supreme Court decision. I’ve also read some of the decisions they cited.
This decision does not in any way gut the 4th Amendment. If you give cops permission to search your vehicle, they can. That has always been true. In 1790, if authorities wanted to search your wagon and you gave them permission to do so, it was legal.
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posted on
01/04/2015 7:48:38 AM PST
by
Mr Rogers
(Can you remember what America was like in 2004?)
To: Mr Rogers
Once you have been pulled over, if you then give the police permission to search your car, the search is not illegal or unconstitutional. Why? Because you gave permission. I wish (though it will never happen) that legislators would make clear that in many circumstances involving police, any "consent" should be presumed coerced and any police who wish to claim they had permission to do something would be required to prove that it was genuinely voluntarily.
I would suggest that the vast majority of people who "consent" to searches really don't want to police to search, and don't believe that the police would be able to find a legal basis to search without consent, but believe (perhaps correctly) that the police will use their discretionary authority to make their lives more unpleasant if they refuse the search than if they "consent". I would not call consent given in such cases voluntary.
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posted on
01/15/2015 5:15:46 PM PST
by
supercat
(Renounce Covetousness.)
To: M Kehoe
Way too vague to be considered reasonable to hold you for hours. I would of been asking to go because no PC has been discovered DURING the stop.
Did you even ask to leave? After 10 minutes I would have been.
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posted on
01/15/2015 5:32:23 PM PST
by
rollo tomasi
(Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
To: supercat
LEOs prey on people who do not understand their Constitutional protections. Police/investigators/interrogators are going to use any legal means necessary to pry and get people to submit. The fault lies not with them but people who are ignorant of the Constitution.
Rule of thumb; keep to yes and no answers(Upon first encounters with general information), when cop starts prying, for example, how fast do you think you were going, or did you think you came to a complete stop, begin to stay silent. Cop attempts to pry more don't answer. Only provide documentation under the law (Registration, insurance, etc.). Never under any circumstance consent to a search. If detained more than the time to write a ticket or license plate check ask if you are free to go. If no, then ask if you are being arrested. If cop does not give a proper answer, inform the officer that you would like to call a lawyer and the LEOs supervisor because you are unnecessarily being detained.
This is all elementary and an indictment on our educational system regarding the basic understanding of American Government.
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posted on
01/15/2015 6:04:08 PM PST
by
rollo tomasi
(Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
To: Titan Magroyne
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posted on
02/05/2015 10:48:54 PM PST
by
Drumbo
("Democracy can withstand anything but democrats." - Jubal Harshaw (Robert A. Heinlein))
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