Posted on 10/07/2014 1:25:19 PM PDT by jazusamo
Article focuses on electric vehicles.
B.S. Electrical Engineering, thank you very much. “Logic Design” is the industry term for computer chip design. Also, you might be interested to know that GM sells more Volts than they do Corvettes.
That, and the infamous transmission code P0741 - torque converter clutch sensor stuck - that takes an entire transmission disassembly to fix with a pennypart. A car that can’t pass smog (or be resold) because of a dash light, is not on the road building brand loyalty, it’s sitting on the side of the road collecting the Dust Of Shame for all to see.
You must be new, or limited. "Computer chip design" encompasses a whole lot more than just logic design. #BeenThereDoneThatStillDoingIt
Also, you might be interested to know that GM sells more Volts than they do Corvettes.
Balderdash. Just doing a quick search (DuckDuckGo) of, say, August 2014 sales for both Corvette and for Volt brings up the following articles:
Corvette sales through August 2014
Volt sales through August 2014
They show that the 2014 sales thus far stack up like this: Corvette: 23,483 , Volt: 13,146
The other amazing part of this is that the Corvette is a luxury sports car in a completely different, low-volume high profit sector. The Volt is supposed to be a widespread, 4-door economy vehicle, marketed to the masses.
Your logic here is faulty. I hope you have good verification engineers checking on any chip you design....
Wow, you took my response that was intended for a general audience and are upset because I wasn't pedantic enough to specify digital design? Get a grip.
“They show that the 2014 sales thus far stack up like this: Corvette: 23,483 , Volt: 13,146”
I had not checked on Corvette sales recently, so you may have me when it comes to 2014 sales. I was just referencing the numerous articles that had been done in past years about the Volt outselling Corvettes. More recently, lower sales may be the result of news that GM is preparing to unveil the 2016 redesign in January.
And the logic blocks I've designed have been remarkably error-free, thank you very much.
What I don't understand is why someone who is mathematically oriented would not be interested in the potential for electric vehicles. With the price of lithium ion batteries falling and the price of electricity 60% less than gasoline (even less if you get a discounted nighttime electricity plan), the possibility that we could put the petro-dictators of the world in the poorhouse is quite enticing, from my point of view.
Okay hotshot, you got tripped up by a FReeper who pays attention to facts and then weaseled out saying you made a mistake.
Your cut and paste canned arguments are tiresome and you haven’t addressed anything in this article by Mark Modica.
What say you about the facts in THIS article? That’s a simple question and hijacking of threads is frowned on at FR.
I am logic oriented. Therefore I neither favor nor disfavor any technology.
I trust in the market's ability to figure that out, for most cases. (The smog environment in Los Angeles, or other dense downtowns, is a perfectly reasonable area where regulations encouraging very low "local" emission vehicles are justified.)
The current economics behind electric vehicles in general, and the Chevy Volt in particular, are the product of anything but market forces. They are bought entirely by the well-to-do, but are subsidized by all tax-payers, including the dirt poor who have to spend a large chunk of their income on fuel. (Just imagine those people who are lower-level employees in the Bay Area. Many have multi-hour commutes coming in from the Sacramento area, where housing is affordable to them.)
So I object to the hype (batteries are a carrier, not an energy source) , I object to the inherit social injustice (as stated above), and I especially object to the lack of analysis on how much energy it takes to create and destroy electric vehicles compared to petroleum based ones. (The dimwits out here seem to think they just grow on trees and get carried away by birds when they're finally junked.)
Trust in the market's ability to reason this out. The fact it is propped up by government should be a red flag to you.
I see you are relatively new here. FR is a good place to learn that what seems to make initial "engineering" sense actually can be a pile of balderdash on multiple fronts when properly analyzed.
Wow, jazusamo, you post a lot of baloney articles, and I like to point it out, so i’m sure you would love to get me banned. You think this error is worthy of a ban?
Ever since the Volt was released in December 2010, there have been 69,049 Corvettes sold and 67,698 Volts sold through August 2014. (I'm using Yossarian’s source for Corvette sales and it doesn't have data for September.)
That is a difference of 1,351 and Corvette has only come out on top, in total, in recent months.
One more time. What say you about the facts in THIS article?
Once again, you are stating disingenuous data.
The C7 Corvette was publicly announced at the January 2013 Detroit Auto Show, but was only made available for sale in October 2013.
Sales, of the C6 Corvette, already slow because it was a very old design, predictably went off of a cliff.
I don’t know why I’m wasting time with this. The very fact that you are trying to compare upscale sports cars sales to econobox sales is pretty laughable.
What? That GM is offering frequent flier miles to people who test drive Cadillacs? Sure, it is a silly marketing gimmick.
But it is for all Cadillacs, not just for the electric ELR, but why pass up an opportunity to try to bash electric cars, right? The author of this article is always looking for ways to twist the facts in order to do so.
Never once did you, or I, distinguish between the C6 and the C7. You were the one who brought up Corvettes in general and I replied using, admittedly, information that was a few months stale. The idea that I was being disingenuous is silly.
It’s evident you didn’t read the entire article.
Modica didn’t bash, as you say, “electric cars.” He was critical of the overpriced ELR and GM’s brain dead promotion of it against a superior Tesla “electric car.”
Good day.
No, another FReeper mentioned Corvette and Yossarian corrected you when you posted more Volts were sold than Corvettes.
Yep,
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I did read the article, but did you read the headline?
“Now That Electric Cadillac Can’t Compete With Tesla, GM Tries Frequent Flyer Miles”
The author implies that this a gimmick that is for their electric Cadillac, when in fact it is for all their Cadillacs. While the wording of the headline is obviously deceptive, it is not an outright lie, so he can get away with it... with some people apparently.
The rest of the article is filled with insinuations that somehow Obama still has influence over GM even though the government sold all their stock long ago.
There is so much twisting an deception, but that is par for the course for articles that Richard Mellon Scaife, excuse me, NLPC.org puts out. I don’t know why any conservative would listen to an oil billionaire’s opinion on the viability of electric cars.
I’ve voted Republican all my life, I even voted for GWB and supported the Iraq War initially. However, I would love for the West to get to the point where we can disentangle ourselves from and starve the funding of the oil dictators of the world.
catch on == catch on fire?
your own bias is showing.
the article doesn’t say electric cars are no good. it’s main point is discussing gm’s dismal failure to market it’s elr vehicle.
Well said, his bias is showing.
Modica has criticized GM since the bailout for their hype about the Volt and the screwing bondholders, taxpayers and mostly Republican dealerships got in the bailout. Makes me wonder just how conservative LD is.
to wit,
way back in the 80s gm had an ev, the ev-1 that had about 100 people or so driving around in for a year. those people loved it. kinda looked like the first honda ev. they killed it. people wanted to buy them. gm said nope. took em’all and destroyed them.
gm makes terrible decisions as a company. this was just another article discussing a particular area where they’ve made bad decisions.
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