Posted on 10/07/2014 4:19:56 AM PDT by ICCtheWay
BLOCK VISAS BEING GRANTED TO PEOPLE IN WEST AFRICAN NATIONS.
WE DON'T WANT TO EVEN BE EXPOSED TO THE EBOLA VIRUS...
It occurs to be from reading various articles and posts on Freerepublic.com that some people including political 'leaders' think it is okay to have Government policies that have caused American citizens to be exposed to Ebola by a foreign national who was allow to enter the U.S. coming from a known Ebola Hot Spot - because they claim that an Ebola outbreak would not occur and/or if it did it could easily be contained. I find this attitude totally empty headed... : Foreign nationals from many places are denied a visa to visit America - denied entry. Yet some how those from Ebola epidemic Hot Spot Countries are not to be told NO! Cannot be told - No you cannot visit your family. It happens everyday to people who do not come from West African Countries.
Americans don't want to even be exposed to Ebola and have even a small chance of catching the disease. Because even the exposure is Not Necessary. Liberians and other West Africans do not have a right to demand they be allowed entry into the USA. And the U.S. Government has no obligation to allow them. Americans want the Ebola virus kept away from America - because there is no reason to have to be exposed to it at all - regardless if it can be controlled or contained. It doesn't matter whether some think an Ebola outbreak cannot happen or if it did it can be controlled. We don't want it inside our country. And if people in other countries have their feelings hurt because they can't visit America --- well too damned bad. The health and welfare of American people comes before the wants and desires of other nationalities who want to visit.
People from West African Nations can be told that visiting America in the near future will require a complete certified medical examination, they can be told that they may have to opt for a 35 day quarantine in isolation if they really want to pursue coming to America. They can be told NO!
I have an American friend here in Thailand, he and his Thai wife have a Thai woman friend who applied to the American Embassy in Bangkok to get a Visa to go to America to present her PhD Dissertation. She was denied - only a few weeks ago... She has not been exposed to a deadly disease. Ebola nor anything like is not endemic to Thailand. She likely was denied because bureaucrats in our State Department firmly believe that Thai women and other Asian women only want to go to America to find a husband and may overstay her visa. Denials have happened many times to Thai women. And for this one fine Thai lady - no one cared if her feeling were hurt.
Liberians are allowed to come to America even though statistics show that about half will overstay their visa. I would bet good money that half of the 13,000 Liberians in Dallas (who knew) are visa over stayers... Mr. Duncan quit his job, lied on a Liberian Immigration form, is poorly educated, offers next to nothing of value to America but is granted a visa... while a Thai women is denied a visa to go to America to present her PhD Dissertation... That's what we have folks - a dysfunctional government.
Bottom Line is - it does not matter if Ebola will take hold in America or not... it does not matter is Ebola can be treated in America and people will survive it... We do not want to be even exposed to Ebola - because it is not necessary ... it can be stopped and could have - should have been stopped months ago... And Americans have a right to demand it.
But we have bleeding heart liberals with no brains making decisions. Making decisions counter to the health and welfare of Americans.
Many of us Americans do know ILLOGICAL policies when we be see them... And there is no logic supporting the U.S. Government's stance on continuing to allow people from West African Countries to enter America... Had such a policy been in place even a month ago ... Mr. Duncan would have never been diagnosed with Ebola in Dallas, Texas.
Not only should the issuance of visas to the region be stopped, but those not already over here should have their visas revoked, and those here now should have them revoked if they return home.
Stop direct flights, and stop taking anyone on indirect incoming flights who can’t prove they have been elsewhere for the entire previous month.
I get the idea that Barry’s team is flying as many people in from the region, under the radar, as possible and giving them refugee or other legal status—just as he’s done with illegals from Central America.
No question.
Not yet, but nice try with a straw man argument.
American/English names are very common names for Liberians ... go check ... you’ll see. Look up past Liberian leaders names
Sorry ... my post to you was meant for the other guy you were replying to
Duncan’s flight ticket was paid for by a UPS contractor — Duncan quit his job - likely with this UPS contractor and used that’s company’s credit card to pay for the flight ticket
More reasons to not waste time discussing topic points about such things as - can the Ebola be transferred by airborne particles... Instead discuss stopping granting Visas to West Africans... which is the real problem - not quibbling about how it could be transmitted...
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The debate over whether the Ebola Virus can be transmitted by airborne particles is pointless.
Note: Airborne is defined as being small particle size and light enough weight to be expelled from a patient and float around in the air. If the Ebola Virus did mutate to allow airborne transmission it would be a very bad thing...
But it does not have to be capable of airborne transmission — because the others methods of transferring the virus are plenty good enough right now to cause a serious epidemic. Just look at West Africa - thousands of Ebola patients and half or more are dying...
So right now we have these methods of transfer: vomitious, diarrhea fluids, saliva/spit, mucous, phlegm, sweat, semen... Let’s see..
- Sudden projectile vomiting - train, bus, plane, classroom, mall escalator, office elevator, and a thousand other places - you may be right in the path...
- Uncontrollable diarrhea- (often quite liquid) train, bus, plane, classroom, mall escalator, public restroom, taxi seat, restaurant seat, and a thousand other places. And you came right after him ... sat down on the commode seat, touched this - touched that.. any object ... a fomite
- Energetic Sneezing or Coughing: Expelling droplets of saliva, or nasal mucous, or globs or globlets of phlegm
- Sweating: mostly likely a family member who handles the fever sweat clothing of the Ebola Victim
- Semen: Fairly self-explanatory.
So - if we have people in America with Ebola for which they have not sought treatment... they are in supermarkets, malls, riding taxis or a bus, in clinic waiting rooms, trying on clothes at a department store ... AND all of a sudden they going into a violent episode of vomiting - vomiting wildly as the Duncan family said... Or the Ebola victim has diarrhea in a public restroom and your next ... did he get it on the sink edge when he washed his hands or on the faucet handle, or the towel dispenser? Or you just standing in the supermarket checkout line and this guy turns and coughs or sneezes very hard - spraying globs - big and small - some so small you cannot see ... all over your clothes, your hands, arms, face, and not seen on your shoes that you take off later.
Fomites: Inanimate objects that get touched by the flying droplets and globlets of mucous - a door knob, a commode handle, a taxi door handle, a bus rail.
Get The Picture ? The Ebola Virus does not have to be airborne capable to reek havoc - to cause disease... to kill people...
Arguing about whether the Ebola Virus is airborne capable is a pointless diversion from the issues at hand and a waste of time.
“STOP ISSUANCE OF VISAS TO WEST AFRICANS”
BTTT
Kachinga Cheatchusuckah?
I suspect you have no clue what I mean because I have no earthly idea what in the world you are talking about.
Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.
The purpose of the “Bring Out Your Dead” ping list (formerly the “Ebola” ping list) is very early warning of emerging pandemics, as such it has a high false positive rate.
So far the false positive rate is 100%.
At some point we may well have a high mortality pandemic, and likely as not the “Bring Out Your Dead” threads will miss the beginning entirely.
*sigh* Such is life, and death...
I was just at CDG in Paris two days ago. The place was crawling with Africans making connecting flights.
Not surprising. A quarantine offers those in it a stark choice, stay and die, run and live.
I know exactly what you meant.
You were trying to create a straw man argument to cover for the idiot from the CDC that jumped the gun on his talking points and made reference to something that wouldn’t happen until the future.
If we shut down travelers from West Africa because of Ebola then we also need to shut down travel from Spain because Ebola is in Spain.
If we shut down travel from Spain then we also need to shut down travel from (name your country) because Ebola has also been reported in this country.
Your straw man argument is an attempt to get people to say shut down world travel, which no one has said but the idiot from CDC used in his talking point.
He referenced a future which you are now trying to create.
Either he could see into the future or we are being played.
Nice try.
“Either he could see into the future or we are being played.” Sounds like you were describing yourself...As I said, you don’t have a clue but I give you points for creativity. Can’t wait to see what you create next.
Right now the Obamabots are all over the internet trying to make it sound like the “right wing extremist crazies” want to shut down all air traffic into the US and all air traffic including medical aid into West Africa.
A lot of the Obamabots, as expected, are playing the race card.
Right wing extremist crazies are racist and want to stop aid flights to West Africans so black people will die.
If that wasn’t your intent then I apologize, but your comment about stopping flights from Spain wasn’t any different than the Obomabots trying to set up a straw man argument that “right wing extremist crazies” want to shut down all flights into the US and aid flights into West Africa so blacks will die.
The CDC idiot jumped the gun with his talking point about stopping flights into W Africa when no one had suggested it.
Now the Obamabots are out in full force attempting to get people to say shut down all flights, which would include aid flights,into W Africa.
In short Obama is playing the race card and he’s betting with Americans lives.
“How effing stupid does the Government think we are?”
The majority of the country is effing stupid enough to have elected a mudslime obola hussein as pospotus.
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