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To: dforest

> This is just the beginning. Time to outlaw Islam in America. No other religion does this kind of thing. They are abhorrent scum and will never become Americans. They are here to destroy us.

I don’t think outlawing a religion will serve any purpose other than to set a horrible precedent to do the same Christianity. Now the illegal activies that
any perpetrators engage in are criminal in nature and can be tried on those grounds even if they say they are doing that in the name of religion. As a society we have to maintain standards of decency and morality and need to be able to distinguish what is truly committed in the name of religion or just using it asan excuse to commit those crimes. With Christianity the standard for law and order is The Ten Commandments which it’s followers try to stay within the guidelines so we know if a religious leader says they need to sacrifice a human we go back to the 6th Commandment - thou shall not kill and know that a true follower would not do that (yes I’m aware of the time G-d told the Israelites to overtake and conquer a land but the mens rea is for a different purpose than for te sake of killing someone out of anger, jealousy, or selfishness ). Putting the perps to the litmus test of their faith is the only way to know who is who they say they are.


18 posted on 09/26/2014 12:17:33 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: jsanders2001

Ordinarily i would agree with you. Islam is not ordinary. They are not in America to share the American experience. They are here to convert and takeover....and to kill those who won’t convert. No other religion in America does that. All others respect the American way. There is no desire to force people to become like them or die.

Islam is not just a religion, Islam is political. It does not respect or fit into the fabric of a free society like the United States. They want their own laws which they seek to subvert our laws and replace them with sharia. No thank you.

Fit in or get out.


22 posted on 09/26/2014 12:23:52 PM PDT by dforest
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To: jsanders2001
Outlaw Islam! This alleged beheader's actions are perfectly permissible in the Koran. We've had enough of both Islam's gruesome evil and terror and the moral equivalence garbage that your post is full of. Proposed amendment to ban Islam
26 posted on 09/26/2014 12:30:56 PM PDT by Stepan12 (Our present appeasement of Islam is the Stockholm Syndrome on steroids.)
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To: jsanders2001

Well, here’s the thing.

The United States must be bold enough to say that “Islam is a violent and tyrannical political ideology. Not a religion using any form of that meaning. While protected under the free speech portion of 1A, it is not afforded religious protection under the 1A (note; that protection is related to “free-exercise thereof”)

If that cannot be accomplished, we must understand that Muslims will be afforded protection in all crimes against “khafir”...that is how their religion is “freely exercised”


42 posted on 09/26/2014 1:04:00 PM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alteration: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: jsanders2001
OKLAHOMA BEHEADING- ALLAH IS GREAT !!! BEHEADING INFIDELS ON THE NAME OF ALLAH

Report: OK Beheading Suspect Tried to Convert Others to Islam

Breitbart TV ^ | September 26, 2014 | Staff

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3208211/posts

On Friday, Oklahoma City’s KFOR reported that the FBI is investigating claims that Alton Nolen, a man who beheaded one of his former co-workers before stabbing another had tried to convert others to Islam.

OBAMA WILL PRESENT THIS CASE TO THE UNITED NATIONS AS ANOTHER PROOF OF OUR FAILURE FOR NOT CONVERTING TO THE RELIGION OF PEACE.

ISLAM IS NOT, AND NEVER HAS BEEN, A RELIGION OF PEACE.

Of course, that’s not the case. To satisfy their blood lust, Muslims then start killing each other for a variety of reasons.. . “Before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; and the tribe against the world and all of us against the infidel.” — Leon Uris, “The Haj”

As Byzantine emperor Manuel II Palaiologos, one of the last Christian rulers before the fall of Constantinople to the Muslim Ottoman Empire, in a dialogue with a Persian Muslim scholar, he asked:

“Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached.”

Better start being clear that we need to defend our faith and our way of life. Lest we loose them.

Oh, I think Real Americans figured out what Islam “is”, a long time ago...

The Koran demands perpetual war against all who deny Mahomet as the prophet of God” - John Quincy Adams

“Treachery and violence are taught as principles of Mohamet’s religion” - John Quincy Adams

“While the merciless dogmas of Muhammad remain there can never be peace upon earth” - John Quincy Adams

WINSTON CHURCHILL ON ISLAM

“How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries, improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement, the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Individual Muslims may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome …” Sir Winston Churchill; (Source: The River War, first edition, Vol II, pages 248-250 London).Churchill saw it coming……

Monsignor Walter Brandmüller, president of the Vatican Pontifical Committee for Historical Sciences.

“Islam is destined to remain unchanged in the future, as it has been until now, the only possible outcome is a difficult coexistence with those who do not belong to the Muslim community: in an Islamic country, in fact, the non-Muslim must submit to the Islamic system, if he does not wish to live in a situation of substantial intolerance. Likewise, on account of this all-embracing conception of religion and political authority, the Muslim will have great difficulty in adapting to the civil laws in non-Islamic countries, seeing them as something foreign to his upbringing and to the dictates of his religion. Perhaps one should ask oneself if the well-attested difficulties persons coming from the Islamic world have with integrating into the social and cultural life of the West are not explained in part by this problematic situation. We must also recognize the natural right of every society to defend its own cultural, religious, and political identity. It seems to me that this is precisely what Pope Saint Pius V did. “ (Christianity and Islam in History by Monsignor Walter Brandmüller, president of the Vatican Pontifical Committee for Historical Sciences.)

THE ISLAMIC STATE IN IRAQ

http://clara-media.gloria.tv/65/mediafile-642419-1-sd.mp4?upstream=bonifacius-media.gloria.tv%2fj&sum=S250A1DCGuKoQbK1CjrPTw&due=1410943479

Islam is as much a religion of peace and tolerance today as it has been since its foundation by Muhammad in the 8th century.

MUSLIMS MASSACRE CHRISTIANS IN NIGERIA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ahz3BEhkyho

43 posted on 09/26/2014 1:08:54 PM PDT by Dqban22
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