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Now Why Would The ATF Be Asking About Internet Sales?
No Lawyers - Only Guns and Money ^ | 9/23/14 | John Richardson

Posted on 09/23/2014 10:56:54 AM PDT by Nachum

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1 posted on 09/23/2014 10:56:54 AM PDT by Nachum
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2 posted on 09/23/2014 10:58:19 AM PDT by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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3 posted on 09/23/2014 10:58:52 AM PDT by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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Their messaging handbook. Use wording that doesn’t scare the rubes.

http://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/748675/gun-violencemessaging-guide-pdf-1.pdf


4 posted on 09/23/2014 11:01:12 AM PDT by rktman ("The only thing dumber than a brood hen is a New York democrat." Mother Abagail.)
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They are their own little fiefdom and can ask whatever questions they please. /Sarc


5 posted on 09/23/2014 11:04:20 AM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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That FFL Form is UN-Constitutional in the first place. Nonetheless, thousands of unscrupulous “FFL Dealers” across the Country see no problem with further destroying the 2nd Amendment in the name of money. Screw them. The 2nd Amendment does NOT say, “...shall not be infringed as long as you have a background check”. SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED, PERIOD. But, like good little serfs, we consent to this destruction each and every time we walk into a gun store and submit to a background check. I will NOT comply.


6 posted on 09/23/2014 11:23:43 AM PDT by dware (3 prohibited topics in mixed company: politics, religion and operating systems...)
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I’ve noticed the forms change all the time. I recently renewed my C&R license, and it had different questions than the previous one. OTOH, a C&R isn’t meant as a business license, and you will draw attention if you make very many sales. Don’t accuse me of being an ATF apologist, but if you have a federal license you’d better dot all the i’s and cross all the t’s. (and I know those apostrophes are incorrect)


7 posted on 09/23/2014 11:27:28 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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Its unclear whether this question is compulsory or not. For instance SSN isn’t. I would just leave it blank and see where it goes.


8 posted on 09/23/2014 11:29:25 AM PDT by 556x45
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For instance SSN isn’t. I would just leave it blank and see where it goes.

+1 and I sure as hell won't give them the website of where I intend to buy or have bought. Screw yourselves ATF.

9 posted on 09/23/2014 11:35:52 AM PDT by Envisioning (My desire to be well informed is at odds with my desire to remain sane....)
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ATF form changes really took off with the Clinton administration. The 4473 had been pretty static for decades, then the Clintons figured out that they could screw with gun dealers through the BATF. They deliberately drove about 90 percent of small dealers out of business.

It was and is insane. We should repeal the GCA 1968 that required Federal firearm license sales for “dealers”.

If you think that “background checks” do any good, then have a list of prohibited persons online than anyone can check anonymously, for any reason.


10 posted on 09/23/2014 11:43:47 AM PDT by marktwain (The old media must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: Nachum

All the law is designed to do is harass law abiding citizens and make the ATF’s illegal gun owner database more accurate.


11 posted on 09/23/2014 11:44:46 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The cure has become worse than the disease. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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All federal, state, and local laws that infringe on the right of the people to keep and bear arms should be repealed. That list includes the vast majority of existing gun laws. I’m strongly in favor of locking up violent criminals forever (an idea that offends liberals) and strongly opposed to infringing on the God-given rights of decent people (an idea that liberals adore). Clearly liberals and real Americans have irreconcilable differences on firearms as we do on numerous issues.


12 posted on 09/23/2014 11:50:34 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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Lie, it’s just that simple. Just tell yourself that TODAY I have no intentions of selling anything on the internet so check the NO box. Tomorrow or next week you changed your mind. barry and his administration lies just about every time anyone of them says anything.


13 posted on 09/23/2014 11:54:48 AM PDT by DWaves
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+1 and I sure as hell won't give them the website of where I intend to buy or have bought.

Give 'em Democrat Underground!

14 posted on 09/23/2014 12:02:08 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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I’m strongly in favor of locking up violent criminals forever...

I've said for years that anyone who can't be trusted to be armed should not be running around loose.

15 posted on 09/23/2014 12:04:26 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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Many gun forums maintain their own classifieds.

How many of the ads are placed by the feds to entrap would be gun buyers?

16 posted on 09/23/2014 12:06:37 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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Someone needs to tell these twits that any gun ordered online has to be sent to an FFL dealer. I honestly wonder how these people can stand being so stupid or pretending to be so stupid.


17 posted on 09/23/2014 12:59:40 PM PDT by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be earned and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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+1 and I sure as hell won't give them the website of where I intend to buy or have bought. Screw yourselves ATF.

What are you, 12?

Part of having and FFL or C&R-03 is keeping a bound book as a record of every firearm that you purchase or sale using that license.
The thing with the C&R though is that for the most part it is just for show. And is never checked. But it is still required.

And a C&R is not a license to deal in firearms. But a means for one to enhance their collection.

Ed

18 posted on 09/23/2014 1:02:53 PM PDT by husky ed (FOX NEWS ALERT "Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead" THIS HAS BEEN A FOX NEWS ALERT)
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"Their messaging handbook."

Wow! Thanks for that.

Must have cost us a pretty penny.

19 posted on 09/23/2014 4:45:21 PM PDT by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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I think there’s a couple of agendas at work here. One group is primarily interested in inhibiting the transfer of firearms by any and all means possible. Another group is interested in prohibiting any kind of transfers that they can’t tax. If there’s action, they want their piece of it.


20 posted on 09/23/2014 5:54:01 PM PDT by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a nice way of saying martial law enforcement.)
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