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To: John S Mosby; rockrr; Sherman Logan; x
John S Mosby: "40 Acres and a Mule was disallowed by Lincoln in the first place."

Only in some alternate universe, pal.
In fact, Lincoln supported numerous efforts to resettle or employ freed slaves, including this one:

John S Mosby: "This had nothing to do with reparations... the issue was to get an economy going that could support 40 acres and a mule participants."

The issues was how to provide former slaves with a means to earn their livelihoods, period.
Calls for "reparations" (i.e., $100 trillion dollars) did not begin until the second half of the 20th century.

John S Mosby: "Anyone who says Stanton was concerned about slaves is delusional.
Stanton cared about the control of the labor force, particularly on the Westward railroad expansion.
Stanton is not well liked, to the point that there are claims from both sides that he arranged the death of Lincoln- utilizing his real work— running agents against the South and turning agents to work for him.
The man was a disgrace and one greedy bastard."

Only in your utterly confused & disoriented alternate universe, pal.

Here's what Lincoln said about Stanton:

After the war, Stanton was honored in 1869 with a US Supreme Court appointment, in 1871 appeared on a US stamp and in 1891 on US Treasury Notes.

Your claim that Stanton had something to do with Lincoln's assassination is total rubbish, invented out of thin air by an Austrian immigrant named Otto Eisenschiml in 1937.

8 posted on 09/12/2014 2:28:17 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective..)
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To: BroJoeK

Lincoln did not have the power to propose the employment of slaves, anymore than he had the power to emancipate them (which of course, he only did in the Northern states, remember?).

The actions of Sherman were to deal with what were a nuisance as a result of his destruction of private property- the new style of total war, which the South has never forgotten- at least not the real South (you know, people whose families were actually there).

History is written by the “victors”, and leaves out a great deal- in this case the radical republicans. The adroit manipulative comments of A. Lincoln, the railroad lawyer, about Stanton, the opportunistic Pinkerton’s railroad man are of no consequence. That Stanton then secured a payoff of a seat on the Supreme Court, having lined his pockets from the largesse of carpetbagging, using this to support Grant for President and voila’ the SC. What can be said about an Ohio anti-slavery Democrat who worked behind Lincoln’s back? Plenty- since he acted always in his own profit. Never forget the close work of Salmon Chase and Stanton. Seward stood in the way with his close friendship with Lincoln. The so-called “team of rivals” (hesitate to discuss another amateur moronic “historian” with an agenda, Doris Kearns Goodwin) got Lincoln killed.

In the real world, you get an actor to recite the lines and perform insane deeds- an empty vessel to do the work. And in the real world you kill the actor, and the one person who knew all about Stanton and his agents, Mary Surratt. The term is “cut-out”.

As regards one person’s beliefs about history- it is rather a different thing to have family that was there. Whatever you wish to believe in “your” reality is fine. It just isn’t the truth. Welcome to the march of Progressives.
Lincoln surviving was greatly in the South’s best interest. Oh yes, it was Stanton who drove the impeachment truck against Johnson. It really did pay ole Stanton in so many ways.

Pennsylvania and Ohio have a LOT to answer for.


18 posted on 09/12/2014 9:13:56 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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