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To: Sherman Logan

Thank you, tell that to the new repub JoeBroK who apparently has great need to believe the fantasy of Princeton academics who are of the Wilsonian school. And coming up with an Austrian (Austrian?) conspiracy amateur.

The radical repubs have returned in the current neo-marxist, liberation theology reparations crowd, desperately using the tools of the academic ivory towers and media to “make their case”. They don’t have one. And, for that matter for many, many people neither did the Norther oligarchs, who still machine to control us all. The great State. Left or Right it is still the State.


13 posted on 09/12/2014 8:31:46 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: John S Mosby

Methinks it’s a major stretch to draw a line between the Radical Republicans and today’s Reparationists. As are most efforts to draw comprehensive parallels between politics in different eras.

For instance, throughout almost the entire 19th century, the Democratic Party was the “small government” party, though that meant something different then. The Federalists, Whigs and Republicans (the successive opposition to the DP) were in general for greater government initiative, though again what they were in favor of bears little resemblance to what we have today. It meant things like building roads and bridges and clearing streams for navigation, things we take for granted government should do.

The RRs were not so much interested in providing reparations to the freedmen as they were in punishing the traitors who had dragged the nation through 4 years of bloody war.

As I said in in earlier post, they never came close to getting the votes to do so. Lincoln felt so strongly about the unconstitutionality of the Confiscation Act as passed that he was fully prepared to veto it, and had prepared a veto message. When he sent his request that they pass the resolution to make the confiscation limited to the life of the traitor, he included the veto message for them to review as incentive to pass the resolution.

Even had the Act been passed and enforced to confiscate land, there is quite a good chance the Supremes would have overturned it, and/or that a later Congress would have repealed it.


16 posted on 09/12/2014 9:05:05 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins most of the battles. Reality wins ALL the wars.)
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To: John S Mosby; Sherman Logan; DoodleDawg; rockrr
John S Mosby: "...tell that to the new repub JoeBroK who apparently has great need to believe the fantasy of Princeton academics who are of the Wilsonian school."

FRiend, you've been babbling nonsense from the first sentence of your first post here, nonsense questioned by DoodleDawg and corrected by both Sherman Logan and myself.

In all that blather, you've got one and only one point correct:

So, considering your pathetic batting average regarding facts, I'd leave off all ridiculous references to "Wilson school," or "neo-marxist, liberation theology reparations..."

John S Mosby: "...Norther oligarchs, who still machine to control us all. The great State. Left or Right it is still the State."

By definition of the word "Right" in American politics, a "right wing" state is smaller, more constitutionally restricted and therefore preferable to "left wing" big-government.

17 posted on 09/12/2014 9:11:27 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective..)
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To: John S Mosby
Princeton academics who are of the Wilsonian school.

Uhh, what?

One of the things I'm fairly sure Woodrow Wilson did not support was reparations for all black people. In what sense are those who do of "the Wilsonian school?"

20 posted on 09/12/2014 9:40:33 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins most of the battles. Reality wins ALL the wars.)
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