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What Is The Real Danger To Black People?
boblonsberry.com ^ | 08/15/14 | Bob Lonsberry

Posted on 08/15/2014 9:56:37 AM PDT by shortstop

It doesn’t matter who’s killed.

It only matters who does the killing.

That’s an unavoidable conclusion as you look at the current upset over the shooting of an 18-year-old African-American man in Ferguson, Missouri.

Yes, this man’s death is tragic. What occurred, we don’t yet know. But no matter what happened, he is dead and his young life’s potential is lost.

But, in the context of violent crime in America and the state of Missouri, his death is one of many. And yet the reaction to it is wholly different from the others. Being honest about that difference, and understanding why it exists, is essential.

Here’s what I mean.

In the United States in 2011, the most recent year for which there are statistics, the FBI says there were 6,329 black people murdered. That does not include manslaughters and other non-murder homicides.

Nonetheless, it accounts for half of the murders in the country, and exceeds the number of whites murdered by about 500. That’s significant because blacks comprise a far smaller proportion of the population than do whites.

What percentage of murdered blacks are killed by other blacks?

In most cases, race of victim and perpetrator is not tracked. Of the 6,329 murdered black people in 2011, the FBI was able to identify the race of victim and perpetrator in 2,695 cases. Of those 2,695 black victims, 2,447 were murdered by other black people.

That’s 91 percent.

That means that – based on relatively low 2011 numbers – some 17 black people are murdered each day in the United States and 91 percent of them are killed by other blacks.

That’s fifteen a day.

Three hundred and sixty-five days a year.

The numbers for Missouri are even more staggering.

Most years, Missouri leads the nation in black homicides. In 2009, there were 239. That works out to a black murder rate of 34.72 per 100,000.

The national black murder rate is 17.9 per 100,000. The national murder rate for all races is 4.76 per 100,000.

That means a black person in Missouri is twice as likely as the average black American to be murdered, and is seven times more likely than all Americans to be murdered.

This lad who was killed in Ferguson, even before you get to the police, was living in the most dangerous state in America for a black person.

Getting numbers on how many blacks are killed by police is harder. In 2011, one crime-stats blogger counted, there were 607 Americans killed by police. No agency seems to record the racial breakdown of those people.

But there is something of a non-racial demographic profile. Of the people killed by police in 2011, the large majority had criminal histories, were male, and aged 25 to 40.

They also overwhelmingly had it coming.

In almost all the cases, the police action was found to be justified by the violent conduct of the subject, and by the fact that that violent conduct typically involved a weapon.

The numbers aren’t available to make an apples-to-apples comparison, or really anything close, but it is clear that each day in America some 15 innocent black people are murdered by other black people, and that about two people of all races are killed by police, and more than 95 percent of the time it is under justifiable circumstances.

Translation: A lot of black people are murdered by other black people and very few black people are innocently killed by police.

Which gets us back to the paradox of community reaction.

If it were driven by concern for the victim, there would be upset at the black murder rate. If it were driven by antipathy toward the police, there would be upset like that in Ferguson.

It’s not about who’s killed, it’s about who does the killing.

Which makes it not about love for black people, but about hatred for the police.

And that’s a tough mirror to look into.

There are any number of heartbroken black mothers who have had children slain. The only ones who get the press conferences are the ones whose children fell at the hands of police.

That is morally uncomfortable.

Because it says that we don’t really care about that hypothetical mother or her son, we are merely using her pain and his death as instruments to advance our hatred for the police.

We are not respecting the loss, we are exploiting it.

To foster anti-police sentiment, to whip up a political base, to promote electorally beneficial racial polarization, to broaden the divide which immorally benefits the ruling elite.

Which may explain the press releases from the Congress people and senators, and the announcement from Martha’s Vineyard.


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KEYWORDS: ferguson; lonsberry; missouri
"Most years, Missouri leads the nation in black homicides."

Really, Missouri? Not Illinois or New York? Not one of those redneck Southern states? Missouri? Really?

1 posted on 08/15/2014 9:56:37 AM PDT by shortstop
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To: shortstop

Thanks for posting this. I love Bob Lonsberry. I first found his radio show when I was staying in Rochester back in the summer of 2011. My sister was in hospice care at the time. He comes on after Rush on a Syracuse station, but I can only get him if I’m in my car and driving that way.


2 posted on 08/15/2014 10:00:22 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: shortstop

WHAT IS THE REAL DANGER TO BLACK PEOPLE?


Ending welfare and quotas.


3 posted on 08/15/2014 10:01:27 AM PDT by boycott
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To: boycott
WHAT IS THE REAL DANGER TO BLACK PEOPLE?

Themselves

4 posted on 08/15/2014 10:11:30 AM PDT by llevrok (Straight. Since 1950.)
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To: shortstop

Yep thousands of blacks murdered by other blacks

not a peep

One black thug killed by police

time to riot

Its quite revealing— because this is about blacks hating the police and using events like this as an excuse to lash out at them, this is NOT about blacks valuing the lives of other black people.


5 posted on 08/15/2014 10:12:16 AM PDT by Cubs Fan (If you're on the same side of Ferguson as Al and Jesse, then you F-ed up somewhere. Rethink it dummy)
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To: shortstop

It doesn’t matter who’s killed.

It only matters who does the killing.

And it only matters when the race of the one doing the shooting gives you an excuse to riot and loot.


6 posted on 08/15/2014 10:14:05 AM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war,and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: shortstop
I hold very little confidence in (recent)FBI crime statistics particularly those concerning race and I'm not the only one saying that. Some authors have complained the Holder's Dept of Justice is obfuscating the violent crime statistics to make it appear white crime is greater than it is.

7 posted on 08/15/2014 10:14:08 AM PDT by Larry381 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act)
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To: Cubs Fan

PRIDE....is the biggest danger

misplaced pride...in being “black”

pride that by its nature is sour and toxic


8 posted on 08/15/2014 10:14:42 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill ...)
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To: shortstop

This is truth. It is not politically correct and is basically banned from being said in public. Which is why NOTHING has improved in the black community for many generations. The police are not the cause of it and are certainly not the enemy either.


9 posted on 08/15/2014 10:15:04 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: llevrok

WHAT IS THE REAL DANGER TO BLACK PEOPLE?


Themselves

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And democrats. They’ve listened to liberals long enough to where so many of them have forgotten how to work. They don’t have work experience and their families have fallen apart.


10 posted on 08/15/2014 10:15:29 AM PDT by boycott
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11 posted on 08/15/2014 10:37:58 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: shortstop

And why is the death of this young black gang banger a tragedy? He had just assaulted a store clerk who was half his size. Why, ...did his free food card reach its limit? ...Not having his fill of violence for the day, he then assaults a black cop who was responding to the store clerk’s call, and the cop shot him. I call that a blessing.

Black people are their own curse, their own tragedy. They don’t need any help from the rest of us. As long as they want to turn every perceived injustice into an excuse for violence, looting, raping, and murder, not to mention street corner weeping, they will keep their curse and tragedy. Everyone knows that Brown could have been killed by gang banging blacks, and passed unnoticed on his trip to hell.


12 posted on 08/15/2014 10:50:41 AM PDT by pallis
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To: shortstop; All
"Most years, Missouri leads the nation in black homicides." Really, Missouri? Not Illinois or New York? Not one of those redneck Southern states? Missouri? Really?

News flash! Missouri IS one of those redneck Southern states! I live in Alabama and have NEVER seen as many Confederate flags as I saw while traveling in rural Missouri. Had a conversation with a local sheriff there. He told me: 'we have these people down here, I don't know what you call 'em, we call 'em n*ggers'! THIS WAS THE LOCAL SHERIFF
13 posted on 08/15/2014 11:38:19 AM PDT by notdownwidems (Shellback pollywogs! U.S.S. William H. Standley, CG-32 1977-80)
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To: shortstop

bkmk


14 posted on 08/15/2014 11:48:11 AM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: mass55th

There is a lot of money being made in the race hustling business by black people.
Every newspaper has a race hustler or 2 writing for them, Jackson has made it a business since at least the early 70s and Sharpton learned at his feet. Black Panther, old and new have money, no supporting business, they hustle it. Look at Farrakhan (White people are potential humans - they haven’t evolved yet) yep race bater
These people don’t want to solve any problems or improve relations, they might have to go to work! Well that ain’t going to happen, so they stir the pot and keep wood on the fire.


15 posted on 08/15/2014 12:08:58 PM PDT by reefdiver (The fool says there is no God. And the bigger fools sees direct evidence and rages against it.)
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