Lake Superior, the Great Lakes and Europe Defy Climate Experts

Canada Free Press ^ | July 31, 2014 | Jack Dini

[citizen]

A little over one year ago, The New York Times and USA Today were reporting that the Great Lakes hit all time lows in water levels. According to those reports, Lake Huron and Lake Michigan were 29 inches below their average measurements taken since 1918. Scientists warned communities that they could only expect more tragedy with the Great Lakes. With a lack of rain from climate change, they told everyone to expect levels to continue to drop.

In an April 2013 report from the International Joint Commission, a group with members from the United States and Canada that advises on water resources, said their five-year study concluded that water levels in the lakes were likely to drop even farther, in part because of the lack of precipitation in recent years brought on by climate change.

[Bulwinkle]

Lake Superior surface temps just a little cooler than 2013, but 10 degrees C, 18 degrees F lower than 2012:
http://coastwatch.glerl.noaa.gov/statistic/avg-sst.php?lk=s&yr=0

[citizen]

Well, I reckon lower lake temps than last year will get the winter ice season on the lakes off to a chilling start.

[factoryrat]

Most of the lower peninsula of Michigan is covered in anywhere from 50 to 250 feet of glacial till, meaning all of the material scraped up from the bedrock by glaciers from the north, was deposited on the land as gravel, sand, and clay as the glaciers receded. Think of most of lower Michigan as one giant gravel pit. This geology is one reason why Michigan is known as the aggregate capital of the US. Along with being the limestone capital, Michigan is one of the largest concrete producers in the US. The joke is that most of that aggregate was scraped off of northern Ontario, and deposited on the lower peninsula of Michigan. Friends in Ontario get a chuckle out of that.

[Wuli]

The climate experts keep proving they inexpert at understanding the totality of the dynamics, and the variables within the dynamics, of weather or climate.

[Reverend Wright]

climate “scientists” have managed to correctly estimate the magnitude of change but not the direction...

[Moonman62]

Most climate “experts” vs economic “experts” both are full of hot air, just like Al Gore. In it for whatever money they can fleece from deluded followers.

I agree, but most of the experts in those fields get their money from the government, so their conclusions end up being whatever the government wants. Al gore, who I think had a D average in his science courses isn't an expert in anything except lying and being a hypocrite.

[citizen]

Ah, thanks for the explanation. Quite a story. I guess there’s more gravel exportation from MI than of wheat, say.

[stylin19a]

I thought Obama exempted the Great Lakes from Climate Change ?

[1010RD]

The Great Lakes will freeze over this winter. No sunspots and no warming of the water.

[Nachoman]

THE GREAT LAKES WATER LEVELS ARE RISING, AND DRASTICALLY

Yet more proof of the calamity that is global warming. /liberal logic

[citizen]

The Great Lakes will freeze over this winter.

That's pretty much the consensus of the global cooling/ice age web sites. From a layman's point of view, I happen to agree with them.

The documented correlation between low/no sunspot activity, changes in the earth/sun magnetic fields and more clouds/colder weather seems irrefutable.

[citizen]

THE GREAT LAKES WATER LEVELS ARE RISING, AND DRASTICALLY

Yet more proof of the calamity that is global warming. /liberal logic

Quite right, the logic is flawed but that's how lib/green fanatics roll..

Also, before the Great Lakes water levels were rising, they was falling. These falling levels were also proof positive of.....you guessed it - global warming.

Another disaster caused by global warming? Toledo, OH is under siege by....
The attack of the killer algae in Lake Erie

[palmer]

What they won't tell you is that the land around and under the great lakes is still "rebounding" from the weight of the glacial ice sheet that covered the region during the last ice age, roughly 12,000 years ago.

Quite true. The Great Lakes used to be part of glacial Lake Agassiz and most rivers north of Arkansas drained northward.

[Mad Dawgg]

Wait the lakes losing water is because of Global Warming? Yet they tell us the oceans rising are due to global warming?

Wow this global warming stuff can do anything...

I bet soon we will see stories of how flooding along the Great Lakes is due to Global Warming...

[citizen]

Yep, they got it all covered with global warming & climate change. Anywhere it’s too hot, too cold, too wet, too dry, too windy and probably the absence any weather at all they will blame on carbon as well.

[citizen]

Very interesting. I knew the Great Lakes were carved or otherwise formed by the great glacial activity but I had not heard of the rebounding theory.

Wasn’t there have supposed to have been a great filling (or refilling) of the Mediterranean Sea, the Black Sea and I suppose many other ancient basins?

[trisham]

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[palmer]

There is a quite a bit of rebounding land including in northern Europe. Part of the compensation for the rebounding is sinking further south (e.g. here in the midatlantic and southward). I think in Europe the filling of the Black Sea was after sea levels rose a couple hundred feet with the ending of the ice age. Europe also had the Alps covered in ice so there were/are probably other local isostatic effects.