Posted on 07/24/2014 1:26:43 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
Heres the spin war verdict: the current Malaysian Airlines tragedy the second in four months is terrorism perpetrated by pro-Russian separatists armed by Russia and Putin is the main culprit. End of story. Anyone who believes otherwise, shut up.
Why? Because the CIA said so. Because Hillary We came, we saw, he died Clinton said so. Because crazy Samantha R2P Power said so thundering at the UN, everything duly printed by the neo-con infested Washington Post.
Because Anglo-American corporate media from CNN to Fox (who tried to buy Time Warner, which owns CNN) said so. Because the President of the United States (POTUS) said so. And mostly because Kiev had vociferously said so in the first place.
Right off the bat they were all lined up the invariably hysterical reams of experts of the US intelligence community literally foaming at their palatial mouths at evil Russia and evil Putin; intel experts who could not identify a convoy of gleaming white Toyotas crossing the Iraqi desert to take Mosul. And yet they have already sentenced; they dont need to look any further, instantly solving the MH17 riddle.
It doesnt matter that President Putin has stressed the MH17 tragedy must be investigated objectively. And objectively certainly does not mean that fictional international community notion construed by Washington the usual congregation of pliable vassals/patsies.
A simple search reveals that MH17 was in fact diverted 200km north from the usual flight path taken by Malaysian Airlines in the previous days and plunged right in the middle of a war zone. Why? What sort of communication had MH17 received from the Kiev air control tower?
Kiev has been mute about it. Yet the answer would be simple, had Kiev released the Air Traffic Control recording of the tower talking to flight MH17; Malaysia did it after flight MH370 disappeared forever.
It wont happen; SBU security confiscated it. So much for getting an undoctored explanation as to why MH17 was off its path, and what the pilots saw and said before the explosion.
The Russian Defense Ministry, for its part, has confirmed that a Kiev-controlled Buk anti-aircraft missile battery was operational near the MH17s crash. Kiev has deployed several batteries of Buk surface-to-air missile systems with at least 27 launchers; these are all perfectly capable of bringing down jets flying at 33,000 ft.
Radiation from a batterys Kupol radar, deployed as part of a Buk-M1 battery near Styla [a village some 30km south of Donetsk] was detected by the Russian military. According to the ministry, the radar could be providing tracking information to another battery which was at a firing distance from MH17s flight path.
The tracking radar range on the Buk system is a maximum of 50 miles (80km). MH17 was flying at 500mph. So assuming the rebels had an operational Buk and did it, they would have had not more than five minutes to scan all the skies above, all possible altitudes, and then lock on. By then they would have known that a cargo plane could not possibly be flying that high.
For evidence supporting the possibility of a false flag, check here.
And then theres the curiouser and curiouser story of Carlos, the Spanish air traffic controller working at Kievs tower, who was following MH17 in real time. For some Carlos is legit - not a cipher; for others, hes never even worked in Ukraine. Anyway he tweeted like mad. His account not accidentally has been shut down and he has disappeared. His friends are now desperately looking for him. I managed to read all his tweets in Spanish when the account was still online. And now copies and an English translation are available.
These are some of his crucial tweets:
The B777 was escorted by 2 Ukrainian fighter jets minutes before disappearing from radar (5.48pm)
If the Kiev authorities want to admit the truth 2 fighter jets were flying very close a few minutes before the incident but did not shoot down the airliner (5.54)
As soon as the Malaysia Airlines B777 disappeared the Kiev military authority informed us of the shooting down. How did they know? (6.00)
"Everything has been recorded on radar. For those that dont believe it, it was taken down by Kiev; we know that here (in traffic control) and the military air traffic control know it too (7.14)
The Ministry of the Interior did know that there were fighter aircraft in the area, but the Ministry of Defense didnt. (7.15)
The military confirm that it was Ukraine, but it is not known where the order came from. (7.31)
Carloss assessment (a partial compilation of his tweets is collected here: the missile was fired by the Ukraine military under orders of the Ministry of Interior - NOT the Ministry of Defense. Security matters at the Ministry of the Interior happen to be under Andrey Paruby, who was closely working alongside US neo-cons and Banderastan neo-Nazis on Maidan.
Assuming Carlos is legit, the assessment makes sense. The Ukrainian military are divided between Chocolate king [President Petro] Poroshenko who would like a détente with Russia essentially to advance his shady business interests - and St. Yulia Tymoshenko, whos on the record advocating genocide of ethnic Russians in eastern Ukraine. US neo-cons and US military advisers on the ground are proverbially hedging their bets, supporting both the Poroshenko and Tymoshenko factions.
The key question remains, of course, cui bono? Only the terminally brain dead believe shooting a passenger jet benefits the federalists in eastern Ukraine, not to mention the Kremlin.
As for Kiev, theyd have the means, the motive and the window of opportunity to pull it off especially after Kievs militias have been effectively routed, and were in retreat, in the Donbass. And this after Kiev remained dead set on attacking and bombing the population of eastern Ukraine even from above. No wonder the federalists had to defend themselves.
And then theres the suspicious timing. The MH17 tragedy happened two days after the BRICS announced an antidote to the IMF and the World Bank, bypassing the US dollar. And just as Israel cautiously advances its new invasion/slow-motion-ethnic-cleansing of Gaza. Malaysia, by the way, is the seat of the Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Commission, which has found Israel guilty of crimes against humanity.
Washington, of course, does profit. What the Empire of Chaos gets in this case is a ceasefire (so the disorganized, battered Kiev militias may be resupplied); the branding of eastern Ukrainians as de facto terrorists (as Kiev, Dick Cheney-style, always wanted); and unlimited mud thrown over Russia and Putin in particular until Kingdom Come. Not bad for a few minutes work. As for NATO, thats Christmas in July.
From now on, it all depends on Russian intelligence. They have been surveilling/tracking everything that happens in Ukraine 24/7. In the next 72 hours, after poring over a lot of tracking data, using telemetry, radar and satellite tracking, they will know which type of missile was launched, from where, and even produce communications from the battery that launched it. And they will have access to forensic evidence.
Unlike Washington who already knows everything, with no evidence whatsoever (remember 9/11?) Moscow will take its time to know the basic journalistic facts of what, where, and who, and engage on proving the truth and/or disproving Washingtons spin.
The historical record shows Washington simply wont release data if it points to a missile coming from its Kiev vassals. The data may even point to a bomb planted on MH17, or mechanical failure although thats unlikely. If this was a terrible mistake by the Novorossiya rebels, Moscow will have to reluctantly admit it. If Kiev did it, the revelation will be instantaneous. Anyway we already know the hysterical Western response, no matter what; Russia is to blame.
Putin is more than correct when he stressed this tragedy would not have happened if Poroshenko had agreed to extend a ceasefire, as Merkel, Hollande and Putin tried to convince him to do in late June. At a minimum, Kiev is already guilty because they are responsible for safe passage of flights in the airspace they theoretically control.
But all that is already forgotten in the fog of war, tragedy and hype. As for Washingtons hysterical claims of credibility, I leave you with just one number: Iran Air 655.
Pepe is ‘truther’, btw.
Pure unadulterated Russian propaganda. Maybe we think the pro-Russian militants did it, not because the CIA told us, but because they were stupid enough to announce they shot the plane down on their social networking page?
So the Russkies are still going with this? The Spanish have said that no such person as Carlos exists there. Apparently this "Carlos" was also talking it up during the Maidan too, with predictable commentary.
What an amazing piece of shoddily put together fiction.
And this is what the retard Putinistas have been vomiting up for us on this forum, most of whom too afraid to talk about where they get their “proof” for this or that stupidity they slip into their posts like anecdotes.
The only button he failed to push was the Nazi/fascist one . . . although he came close. Merely an oversight on his part, I’m sure.
Seems I recall him hovering around the JFK assassination ... hmmmm ?
“A simple search reveals that MH17 was in fact diverted 200km north from the usual flight path taken by Malaysian Airlines in the previous days and plunged right in the middle of a war zone. Why?”
WEATHER. This author could have done a google search and found that out.
and all that artillery flying over the border from Russia, that it also Putins
Chew gum and walk at the same time.
Where’s the BARF alert?
In Russia, BARF alert finds you.
Do you think that Pepe Escobar posts here???
Given that I trust Putin a great deal more than I trust Obama I will assume that the Obama smoke and mirrors machine is running pedal to the metal.
What do you trust Putin to do? Just curious.
I can count on Putin to do what is best for Russia.
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