Defiant: New Hampshire GOP Establishment Gov. Candidate Calls Tea Partiers ‘Teabaggers’

wizbangblog.com ^ | 7/10/14

[cotton1706]

New Hampshire GOP establishment has foisted Walt Havenstein on the state as the Republican candidate for Governor. But, typical of these establishment types, it seems that they have more contempt for people on their own side than they do for the real enemy; the Democrats. Havenstein, for instance, calls you Tea Partiers the disgusting name “teabaggers.” Not only that but he refuses to apologize for his slander.

Havenstein was recorded on video calling members of the Tea Party “teabaggers” at talk he gave a few years ago at the University of Maryland’s Robert H. Smith School of Business.

Now, one might note that this speech was a few years ago, sure. Maybe Havenstein has changed his mind, maybe he was just trying to be “funny,” maybe he really doesn’t hate conservatives?

Well, Mr. NH Establishment was given a chance to repudiate his slanderous name-calling of conservatives just this week and guess what? Skip Murphy, the co-founder of the NH TEA Party Coalition and a well-known local political operative, confronted Havenstein at a campaign stop, and gave the candidate a chance to walk back his slanderous comments, but Havenstein refused to take it back.

So, once again we have a Republican Establishment Stooge who hates people on our own side more than he hates leftists. Walt Havenstein hates conservatives more than he hates those leftists destroying these United States of America.

Once again we see that the GOP establishment is out to eliminate conservatives from within their ranks. Once again we find that the GOP establishment thinks that YOU, my dear friends, are the enemy and that Democrats, liberals, leftists, communists, and socialists are more desirable than you and me.

Now tell me… why do we support the Republican Party, again?

[C. Edmund Wright]

Yes, he ran as a moderate and lost. I criticized him in my book for just that. Made some sport of it actually. However, in fairness - that was a general election with a massive liberal turn out.

He did run as a conservative to win, and my entire American Thinker piece was read, word for word, by Rush that day - as the main analysis of Brown’s win. Here’s the link, you’ll like the article:
http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/01/what_has_brown_done_for_us.html

HOWEVER, that was a special election, and a great night for us. Likely not something that could be duplicated in Mass again. Not with a popular liberal President on the ballot.

And one more time: has Mass ever elected anyone as conservative as Brown (even tho he’s not that conservative) in a statewide election in the last say 50 years????

[cotton1706]

“And one more time: has Mass ever elected anyone as conservative as Brown (even tho he’s not that conservative) in a statewide election in the last say 50 years????”

Not that I can think of. We had a pretty conservative treasurer that came in with Weld in ‘90. All other statewide office were won by the same types, moderates like Brown. Had Weld been elected to the senate he would have been about the same. I think Paul Cellucci would have been more conservative than Brown if he ran.

But I have no argument with you on only moderates winning in MA. This argument started with you saying that Brown wasn’t bad, and in relation to his running in New Hampshire. And I don’t get why you’re defending him. Do you actually think he’s going to win there, that he’s the best candidate the republicans could find, that he’s the best of the three running??

[C. Edmund Wright]

Let me give you a little insight into how I think: I rarely am consumed with people….ie Brown, etc. To me, ideas are far more important - and the idea here is that Brown is the best election winner I can ever remember in Mass, period. The best ever in Mass. Therefore, it’s not about Brown per se as much as it is about the idea that anyone other than a liberal or a moderate is going to win in Mass. It has nothing to do with “defending Brown.”

Put people aside for a second, and think about the bigger picture.

My comments had nothing to do with whether he will win or not in NH. I would suspect he will not, but NH is an oddball little state, and I have not been following that race. I followed Brown V Coakley intensely. I followed Brown V Warren as well.

[cotton1706]

It was an amazing election, having lived through it. The only other ones that even came close were when Romney won by 10 points by 9:30 when it was predicted it was going to be a long night, and 1990 when the Republicans swept most of the statewide offices after the odious Dukakis. But for a republican to take Ted Kennedy’s seat!! That was amazing. The left was shocked.

And then Brown blew it. Had he run down the middle road between moderation and conservatism, we would have all been ok with that. We knew what his record was like in the state legislature. He could have been a senator pretty much indefinitely once reelected.

But instead he chose to run the middle road between moderation and liberalism, getting worse as he went along, never even throwing us a bone. And so he lost the people who elected him.

I think both he and Mitt’s plan (they had the same types of moderate Boston advisors) was to win election without a large conservative contingent, so they wouldn’t owe us anything. They figured enough of us would go along to help them win (always vote for that “r”). But they miscalculated, and they lost. We’d had enough. I voted for Romney but blanked Brown. Romney overwhelmingly won independents but lost the conservatives.

I can’t stand either man anymore.

[C. Edmund Wright]

I agree Brown might have blown it, and I was highly critical of his campaign. However, Obama won by 23% in Massachusetts, and there is no way that any Republican over comes that. Brown lost by 7.5%. I think he would have maintained a higher level of respect had he at least gone down swinging the way he did in the special election.

[cotton1706]

The presidential year certainly added to it. Bill Weld lost the senate race in 1996 when two years before he had been reelected governor by the same constituency with 70% of the vote.

[re_nortex]

I live in Massachusetts! I know a hell of a lot more about the MA electorate than you do.

What do you think of the point I made in post #17? When I think of the great Patriots that came from Massachusetts (Calvin Coolige rose to prominence there and, of course Charles Sumner), it's appalling that the state has, as a whole, become so leftist.

I think that Southern DemonRATS who were left jobless during the FDR era moved into your state and drove it leftward. The South was impoverished due to Roosevelt's anti-business policies. Although the north suffered during his regime, there were enough job opportunities that leftist Southerners migrated north. The upside is that Dixie became Conservative as the DemonRATS fled but their presence led to the evolution of New England into liberalism. Is that a plausible theory to you?

[cotton1706]

The liberal universities did the most damage here. But politically, things were controlled by the Kennedy machine, especially Ted. He knew exactly what levers to pull an when. He and the machine halted the advance of any republican who may be a threat in the future, cementing that stranglehold. And this style and attitude spread to the different states. It was all the intellectual New Dealers the colleges produced combined with shrewd politics that turned New England.

[who knows what evil?]

No wonder the ‘Old Man in the Mountain’ fell off.

It was a suicide...he looked down on the Interstate from his lofty perch, saw all the Mass and NY plates, and threw himself down to his doom.

[re_nortex]

...It was all the intellectual New Dealers the colleges produced combined with shrewd politics that turned New England.

Thanks for the quick and very thorough response. It's a shame that what was once the cornerstone of Our Republic has descended into a reliably liberal region. On the other hand, the South is now free of the past's vile leftwing DemonRATS such as Huey Long and Boss Crump. The region that I'm proud to call home is typified by Patriots including Senator Ted Cruz, Senator Tim Scott, Congressman Louie Gohmert and many others.

Just as telling in terms of how the regions have changed in less than a century is this map, illustrating the rise of the New Solid South. What were once slave states are now the home of liberty, free from the thuggish oppression of forced unionism:

[Fledermaus]

Thank goodness I saw him before that back in 2000. Got some pretty good pics.

[who knows what evil?]

The poor old guy was held together by cables toward the end...his tears probably washed away what little support was left as he watched his state go full-bore communist.