Posted on 06/08/2014 2:48:53 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
During an interview with The New York Times, President Obama admitted that the Republican anti-science climate change deniers are frustrating and that he wants to go off on them.
Here is the exchange between Thomas Friedman of the Times and the president:
Yeah, absolutely, the president said with a laugh. Look, its frustrating when the science is in front of us. We can argue about how. But lets not argue about whats going on. The science is compelling. The baseline fact of climate change is not something we can afford to deny. And if you profess leadership in this country at this moment in our history, then youve got to recognize this is going to be one of the most significant long-term challenges, if not the most significant long-term challenge, that this country faces and that the planet faces. The good news is that the public may get out ahead of some of their politicians as people start to see the cost of cleaning up for hurricanes like Sandy or the drought in California and when those start multiplying, then people start thinking, You know what? Were going to reward politicians who talk to us honestly and seriously about this problem.
The president added: The person who I consider to be the greatest president of all time, Abraham Lincoln, was pretty consistent in saying, With public opinion theres nothing I cannot do, and without public opinion theres nothing I can get done, and so part of my job over these next two and a half years and beyond is trying to shift public opinion. And the way to shift public opinion is to really focus in on the fact that if we do nothing our kids are going to be worse off.
The president finds himself in a familiar position. Most presidents have needed to rely on the public when the members of Congress are behind the times on an issue. The problem is that Republicans dont have to respond to public pressure. They seem only concerned with what their big money donors like the Koch brothers want. Time and again, the American people have demanded action on everything from expanded gun background checks to extending unemployment benefits and they have gotten nothing, because this Congress does not work for or answer to the American people.
The fact that the one party in Congress has no interest in governing has to be frustrating to the president. There are vital long-term issues like climate change and immigration that are being ignored by a Republican Party that is only interesting in chasing the scandal of the day and raising more right-wing billionaire dollars.
Republicans are living in their own reality that is defined by whatever their big money donors tell them it is. When the anti-science religious right wing of the party is added into the mix, the result is a group of people who have no interest in dealing with fundamental reality, much less the future of the planet.
It was nice to hear that the president shares the same frustrations as the non-Koch owned and science embracing majority, and POTUS offered an attractive remedy to the nations current problem.
Voters must start rewarding politicians who are living reality, and throwing out those who have been blinded by Koch dollars and anti-science pandering.
Science is never compelling. It just is. You either accept it or you do not accept it and continue believing the Earth is flat. What is compelling is political science. Or the art or persuasion.
OK!! Everybody pay attention!
Lesson for today:
1. The sun is 1,300,000 times as big as the earth.
2. The sun is a ball of fire that controls the climates of all its planets.
3. The earth is one of the suns planets.
4. The earth is a speck in comparison to the size of the sun.
5. Inhabitants of the earth are less than specks.
Study Question: How do less-than-specks in congress plan to control the sun?
Anti-science Republicans, my big toe! This from the party that brought you abortion up to the 9th month is not murder and a tomboy is really a man born into a woman’s body. Morons!
I just wish that B@st@rd hated the Taliban as much as he hates Republicans.
I am a little worried that the affirmative action Adolf Hitler will use his bully boy IRS to go after the Heartland Institute. That institute was already criminally phished by the pro collectivist, pro global warming Pacific Institute.
Thomas Friedman has a carbon footprint the size of the Moon.
Ill-informed, yes, and highly-determined to do some serious damage before leaving the reigns of power/money.
I believe exactly and precisely the opposite of anything he says - so, in a way, his statements are very useful, as benchmarks of errors and lies.
I remember a time when you talked about the weather to avoid politics. Now weather IS politics. We can thank Al Gore for that. Hope he never takes another comfortable dump.
democrat physicist denies electric charge. Claims it’s swamp gas.
0bama and the Leftists really do believe in their own BS. Although the POS is an incredible liar, he s also a delusional liar.
Obama’s too stupid to be an idiot. There has to be a new class of mental incompetent made up just for him.
NOBODY I know denies that the climate changes. That has been taught since forever. We were always told about past ice ages or past tropical ages and that cycles or catastrophes led to one or the other. We’ve learned that there are age long cycles and that there are centuries long cycles and that there are decades long cycles. Sometimes it’s hot and sometimes it’s cold and sometimes it’s in between.
The question is whether or not human beings are having such an impact on the earth that we are causing an unheard of cycle that isn’t hot, isn’t cold, isn’t moderate, but is what politicians say it is.
That is such a self-serving definition by those seeking to increase their power that it should be rejected.
And then there is this in which I do believe:
Isaiah 24: 17 Terror and pit and snare await you, O people of the earth. 18 Whoever flees at the sound of terror will fall into a pit; whoever climbs out of the pit will be caught in a snare. The floodgates of the heavens are opened, the foundations of the earth shake. 19 The earth is broken up, the earth is split asunder, the earth is thoroughly shaken. 20 The earth reels like a drunkard, it sways like a hut in the wind; so heavy upon it is the guilt of its rebellion that it falls—never to rise again. 21 In that day the LORD will punish the powers in the heavens above and the kings on the earth below. 22 They will be herded together like prisoners bound in a dungeon; they will be shut up in prison and be punished after many days. 23 The moon will be abashed, the sun ashamed; for the LORD Almighty will reign on Mount Zion and in Jerusalem, and before its elders, gloriously.
Steyer unveils $2M climate relief fund
Global Warming on Free Republic
I help out an older Woman who was in Dialysis with my Late Aunt for a year. She is a confused Liberal, but we normally don’t discuss Politics. She is in declining Health and it isn’t something that comes up.
Well, today I called to check up on her and “somehow” the topic turned to Globull Warming. She is a true believer and I learned today that she watches MSNBC, consuming the propaganda like a sponge.
I guess I couldn’t help myself and we got into it a bit. It apparently is Gospel that the Earth is doomed and deniers like me don’t care. My attempts to educate this Liberal Woman fell on deaf ears, then the accusatory “you think you know everything” comment was thrown my way.
Well I do, but that’s not the issue. I even offered to show her proof of her error, but that just agitated her a bit more. She firmly believes that the Arctic Ice Sheet is disappearing and the poor little Polar Bears are becoming extinct.
I guess my point is simply this, these people will cling to the argument no matter the proof against them. There is no possibility in their minds that they could be mistaken. There is no compromise from their position, and they have no patience for anyone who disagrees.
Where I just laugh and move on, my Liberal Friend was angered to a point during the conversation that I think will ultimately end our friendship. I don’t have any Liberal Friends, but having known her for the past year because of my Aunt’s Dialysis, I just wanted to help her out since she is dealing with so many Health issues.
Well, we’ll see if she holds a grudge. If so, her loss.
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