Posted on 06/06/2014 10:27:53 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Cant be true. Ransoms are paid for hostages, and Jay Carney assured me Bergdahl was a prisoner, not a hostage.
This isnt out-of-left-field speculation. Fox News reported two days ago that a ransom for Bergdahl was on the table inside U.S. intelligence circles as recently as December. The key point to grasp here, writes Lachlan Markay, is that the Haqqani Network, which was holding Bergdahl, and the Taliban are two different outfits. The Taliban are true jihadis, bent on reconquering Afghanistan. The Haqqanis are more of an Afghan mafia, bent on enriching themselves. Both have killed lots of American soldiers but only the Haqqanis are a terrorist organization designed by the State Department. The Taliban should be designated, but if we do that and then keep pressing ahead with peace talks with them on our way out of the country, Obama will be accused of negotiating with terrorists. (Like he did here, in negotiating with the Haqqanis.) So, voila the Taliban technically arent terrorists.
The important thing to understand is the oddness of trading four Taliban to the Haqqani Network. Why would they want the Talibans guys out of Gitmo instead of their own guys? Or, to put that differently, did they want these guys out of Gitmo at all?
The Haqqanis could give a rats ass about prisoners, the official said, referring to the Haqqani Network, a designated terrorist group in Afghanistan and Pakistan, and the five Guantanamo Bay prisoners who were freed in exchange for Bergdahls release.
The people that are holding Bergdahl want[ed] cash and someone paid it to them, he said
Only one of the freed terrorists, Nabi Omari, was part of the Haqqani Network. But the presence of other more senior Haqqani prisoners at Guantanamo has observers wondering whether the networks goal in the exchange was actually the release of Gitmo prisoners.
One of these things doesnt belong, the intelligence official said. If you were to put one of these [freed Taliban prisoners] with Haqqani in a room together, theyd beat the s**t out of each other.
Haqqani, he said, benefits zero from the prisoner exchange. Based on 10 years of working with those guys, the only thing that would make them move Bergdahl is money.
We just funded them for the next 10 years is my guess, he told Markay, which explains why the White House might have wanted to frame this deal as a straight prisoner swap for a missing POW while omitting any details about a big payday.
But that doesnt answer the key question namely, if the Haqqanis didnt care about prisoners and if they really didnt care about Taliban prisoners specifically, how on earth did four Taliban bigwigs end up being part of the handover? If you believe that Os prime motive in all this was unloading some weight from Gitmo in preparation for closing it, you already know the answer. If Markays source is right, it may be that the U.S. was more eager to include the Taliban Five (or four) in the deal than the Haqqanis were. Obama wanted them gone but he was afraid of the political backlash if he simply released them to Qatars custody having gotten nothing in return. So he constructed a deal for Bergdahl which he knew he could kinda sorta defend using the principle leave no man behind. Seeing that Obama was willing to free people from Gitmo as part of the deal, it could be that the Haqqanis asked for some of their own men back first but were rebuffed because those guys belong to a terrorist organization, which would be harder to defend than letting Taliban POWs go. So they accepted the Talban instead. And maybe, given their knack for ransoming, they got something on that end of the deal too: Imagine what the Taliban might have paid them to negotiate the release of degenerates like Mohammed Fazl on the Talibans behalf. All speculative, but all worth thinking about.
Exit quotation from Ben Domenech: This is more about Barack Obama realizing he made a politically beneficial promise in 2008 without thinking it through than the government pursuing the national security interests of Americans.
Just another way for Zero to shovel large amounts of money to the enemy in his never ending quest to F up and destroy America and everything it stands for.
Some intel folks also said (I heard on TV) that it was very atypical that the tallyban made a video of the transfer and released it. I don’t know if an article covering that was posted to FR.
Yep, par for the course for this administration.
If this guy was just incompetent, as would lead us to believe, he would have at least done something right on accident by now! Obama is destroying the country and he is WAY too consistent in what he is doing for it to be anything but deliberate!
I think this was a four way deal. We promised to something to Qatar to put the deal together. We gave the Taliban their men, the Taliban gave the Haqqani cash, and we “got” a U.S. citizen.
The administration knows that cash directly from us would be revealed, so they made arrangements for the cash to come from an outside source.
That is what makes sense.
We sold a prisoner release to the Taliban. We ransomed terrorists back into the wild. The Taliban paid the Haqqani to get our guy released. Qatar has already gotten their pay off, but we don’t know what that is yet.
The four-way deal is very likely. As for what Qatar got in this? “Military assistance” is my guess....a dozen fighters or forty tanks or a hundred air-to-air missiles. The administration can shift military assistance money around easily and without any senate oversight.
The remaining question is....who in the administrative staff is the guy who runs the Qater-Haqqani-Taliban deal?
Bergdahl ping.
Now, tell me what he is going to do do for one of our best sitting in a prison in Mexico.
At this point, what’s most important is that they lie about it....just to keep in practice and to utterly overwhelm those who would criticize the admin for this fault or that transgression.
You know what’s happening here?
The GOP has now accused and or criticized or begun investigations into the admin over Fast & Furious, the IRS, the VA, Benghazi, Bergdahl, Michelle Obama’s food wagon, new EPA regs, failure to Keystone XL, freeing the Gitmo 5......and has achieved absolutely flaming NOTHING in terms of whacking these things back or gaining any traction against *any* of them!
It’s the Alinsky overwhelm tactic. Repubs don’t know any more which scandal they should go after.
I- read somewhere it was $6 million; can’t find it now.
Absolutely nothing.
No doubt in my mind they probably paid a ranson. Just hope it comes out so Obama can be impeached.
Everyone is thinking backwards. The ransom probably got paid to Obama (a large “donation” by some raghead oil prince.)
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