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The author is also wrong to describe Karl Marx as a Jew (although Hitler did like to call him that). Marx's grandparents were Jews, but his parents converted to Lutheranism before Karl's birth. Marx never identified as a Jew, and his writings are full of anti-semitism.

Exactly! I was going to make the same very important point. (There's more than enough anti-Semitism out there without having Marx falsely thrown around as a purported "Jew".)

Although I'm in general agreement with the posted Alex Markovsky piece, there are some other errors of fact and history in it that could stand correction:

(1)"Social justice," a term devised by Marx himself, does NOT square with the traditional Jewish concept of charity (to be given by the Jew privately to those (mainly Jewish) less fortunate. The traditional Jewish concept of charity is NOT a governmental function. Nor does the Jewish concept of "justice" mesh with the Marxist "social justice" concept. The traditional Jewish concept is of "righteous" justice, not of a centralized coercive government robbing one person to give to another to make for (false) "equality."

(2) Contrary to the posted piece, the large majority of Jews in Nazi Germany did NOT vote for the Nazi Party.

(3) Though the percentage of Jews in the original Soviet government exceeded the percentage in the general population, it's quite an exaggeration to call the Russian Revolution of 1917 a "Jewish Revolution." In fact, the regime was marked by anti-Semitism from its onset.

(4)To state that "Republicans do not care about Jewish interests because Jews do not vote for them regardless..." is bordering on insanity. Even in 2012, about a third of all Jewish voters voted Republican, even according to 'Rat-run polls. Maybe the writer never saw the GOP presidential primary debates, the GOP national convention, or the GOP platform, but there were obviously appeals there to pro-Israel voters, Jewish and Christian. The Democrats, by contrast, couldn't even agree that Jerusalem was Israel's capital.

40 posted on 05/20/2014 3:46:39 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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Re Marx’s “Jewishness,” being Jewish is more than professing a religion. It is also an ethnicity. And denying one’s Jewishness, or being self-loathing does not turn one into a gentile.


41 posted on 05/20/2014 3:54:19 PM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished. It will just take a while before everyone realizes it.)
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Ethnic Jews are still descendants of Judah, the fourth son of Jacob (Israel), no matter what religion they may profess. AFAICS, Adolf targeted Jews by both ethnicity and religion.


42 posted on 05/20/2014 3:56:01 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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Sadly, I believe his mother was Jewish.

Not that it matters under Jewish law, but his mother converted 7 years after Karl was born.

Karl was, indeed, baptized Lutheran at a young age, was reasonably active in church, and had zero Jewish education.

(I have read to the contrary, that his mother was not Jewish and his father converted in order to marry her, which would make Marx not Jewish.)


44 posted on 05/20/2014 4:10:35 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: justiceseeker93
..."Social justice," a term devised by Marx himself...

The term 'social justice' was devised by Catholics, Jesuits to be exact.

57 posted on 05/20/2014 5:22:50 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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In fact, the (communist) regime was marked by anti-Semitism from its onset.

Although a majority of the posts in the earliest Soviet Nomenklatura may have certainly been held by Jews, the above statement is very accurate.

In fact, whenever there was a particularly dirty job to be done (e.g., The Liquidation of the Kulaks, The starvation and deportations of the Ukraine, etc. etc., the top Soviets, many of them Jewish, made damn sure those directly responsible for carrying out particularly heinous "field operations" were identifiable Jews, too.

Reason? They planned it that way to feed off the endemic Russian anti-semitism of long standing, as in the pogroms of the Czars, to encourage the peasants to somehow shift the blame for their troubles "on the Jews" and not on the Party!

In some ideological way, this was part of the Soviet anti-religion campaign, conducted by Jews in the Soviet hierarchy who chose ideology over their ancestral faith, which they consciouslky thought to destroy.

Post WWII, when the Soviets were subjugating Eastern Europe, they used the same tactics.

Warning: Some Jewish scholars documented this phenomenon many years ago. However, it is not wise to share the info in American liberal Jewish circles, or you'll never eat lunch in this town again!.

102 posted on 05/21/2014 11:17:28 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Vote for a gay African Marxist for POTUS? Sure. What could go wrong?)
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