Posted on 05/19/2014 12:02:00 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
In an interview with Bloomberg News [URL at link], Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov asserted that Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs Victoria Nuland had meetings with the Ukrainian neofascist group Right Sector in Washington DC. The Right Sector has been involved in numerous killings including the burning of pro-Russian supporters in Odessa.
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Whether Nuland met with Artyomenko or any other representative of the Right Sector to help with fundraising and support is unknown. What is known is that the US is supporting the gang in Kiev's "interim government" which includes Svoboda an openly neofascist party which aligns itself historically and currently with the principles of Hitler's Nazi party.
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Glenn Beck did a great series of shows on Fabianism. I think they are available on Youtube. One of the better pieces of work he has done in the past five years.
I used to watch Beck a few years back; he never mentioned the financial elites.
There’s no sense talking about socialism unless one recognizes its source, otherwise one is battling symptoms instead of the real disease.
The Fabians are working the programs of the financial elites.
From wikipedia:
“At the core of the Fabian Society were Sidney and Beatrice Webb. Together, they wrote numerous studies[8] of industrial Britain, including alternative co-operative economics that applied to ownership of capital as well as land.”
In order to understand the Webbs one has to study them.
They are the core.
Beatrice is of the Potter family; one has to research her father and grandfather to understand her life circumstances.
Here’s Sidney’s wikipedia page (raised to the peerage in 1929, decades after helping Beatrice to use her money to fund the founding of the Fabian Society):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidney_Webb
Early Fabian views:
“The first Fabian Society pamphlets[10] advocating tenets of social justice coincided with the zeitgeist of Liberal reforms during the early 1900s. The Fabian proposals however were considerably more progressive than those that were enacted in the Liberal reform legislation. The Fabians lobbied for the introduction of a minimum wage in 1906, for the creation of a universal health care system in 1911 and for the abolition of hereditary peerages in 1917.[11]”
from the wikipedia article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabian_Society
I mean, how contradictory does one have to be to have one’s motives called into question ??? Dude is key founder of a society calling for abolition of the peerage, and 45 years later - accepts membership in the peerage himself !
Great rewards from a grateful British government for all his service doing the bidding of the nation’s financial elites.
As far as old Bea Potter, once again we hear the tired old story of how a wealthy person somehow “rejects” capitalism and enters on a lifelong crusade to implement communism, and other capitalists don’t have them locked up for subversion. Of course, they don’t renounce their own wealth, but their dividends keep pouring in their whole life.
Communism and socialism were invented by the wealthy as a means to have control over the populations of nations where they could cause revolutions and get their puppets installed as national leadership.
The “intelligentsia”, universities, etc., are funded by wealthy elites; they are doing exactly what the wealthy elites want them to do. If anyone goes against the grain of what the financial elites want, they lose their career.
This fellow, Antony Sutton, was summarily dismissed from Stanford:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3vZNSAi-QM
when he refused to stop publishing information that was damaging to the financial elites’ public image.
Thank you for the ping. I cannot disagree in any particular.
Progressing, check out Pieter Casparzen’s comment above and maybe you know some of sources.
Pieter - Progressing America does amazing research with sources documenting the beginnings and growth of everything under the label of “progressivism”, including fabianism. PA posts short article on FR but not so many lately (that I’ve seen).
Who are these ulitmate leaders, in your understanding?
Make no mistake, I said they “need to be stopped”. This may sound like simply going knocking on their door serving them a court order, but - of course - it’s not that easy.
I didn’t say we could take list of names and go “stop them”.
Don’t go bothering billionaires ! LOL. Can you see how quickly you’d see the law coming down on you !
Want to sue them ? LOL. You’ll be wasting millions...
Back to reality...
Let’s put it this way - the net result of a very long, complex, difficult plan that’s next to impossible to execute - the net result would be (theoretically) that the people currently in control would see their control diminish greatly - then they could be “stopped”. We’d be extremely fortunate if your grandkids lived to see the day.
We can’t put the cart before the horse, IMHO, there is no easy shortcut.
Since this is such an enormous, virtually impossible plan - and we get the general idea from an “outsider’s” view that these are billionaires we can’t touch legally at all at this point - the research to find out precisely who is directing what at the very top, on a personal level, is a project that can be back burnered, just keep working on it in the background.
If I’m driving from NJ to Cincinnati to a certain address, I can jump in the car and get on 80W and drive for probably 8 hours without having to deal with those specifics. When I get close, I can start poking around looking for that specific address.
If it took the current elites many generations to get where they are now, it’s reasonable to assume it would take us quite a while to get anywhere near the same league as they are.
The big point for action now, IMHO, is defining - to use a military analogy - the weapons, the tactics, the battlespace, etc.
For example, getting involved in ONLY Republican politics, and ONLY as a campaigner for someone else’s candidate - that game is already designed so we lose. It’s a “time/effort trap”, we’re wasting our time.
Now, you can make your own faction within the Repubs, or your own brandy new party. You would find your OWN candidate. Some young person who looked up to you and you thought they would make a good puppet someday. You’d groom them. Might as well work on a bunch of them at once, like Triple A baseball a whole farm team. You’d have to get a group of insiders together - your real close confidants - the REAL network. It would be “your thing”. Everyone else in your party/faction is an outsider, but they don’t know that. If you come across people reliable enough to include in “your thing”, then you have an initiation process of checking them out, having all the insiders vote on the new member, etc.
This is how the mob works, how political machines work, how banksters work. Think of what’s possible if you have your “buddies” in different roles in different organizations - but all secretly working together.
Now you’d be using the same tactics/weapons/battlspace as the elites, so you would just be beginning to develop the capability to counter their influence.
Great. Now you need to do the same thing in the fields of Law, Universities, Finance, Espionage, Diplomacy, News Media, Entertainment and Business in general at a minimum. There are a few other areas actually.
Because those are all other battlespaces where you would not be showing up. You’d need to show up with “your thing”. Your network of people working together. The network “your thing” would obviously benefit tremendously by the admittance of good members with various abilities and resources. I’m assuming it would be hierarchical.
A bit of bad news: “your thing” will have it’s members go join all sorts of organizations, and form a little organization within each organization. But guess what ? The elites will be infiltrating all your organizations and “your thing” itself. You’ll have to study espionage to know how to mitigate this.
You’ll have one disadvantage, you’ll need to stay within the law. The elites don’t have to. You’ll have to. Why ? Because they now OWN that entire battlespace, that is, the legal system. It’s one of their well-fortified areas where they have very good control. So they can use the law to bash your group at will. Just think of the Tea Party and the IRS. You’ll want to avoid tax deductions, tax exempt status, etc., because the IRS will be able to come after you for back taxes. Advantage: elites.
The good news is that as part of “your thing”’s activities, the “your thing” network members will have to become very wealthy. It’s much easier to become wealthy if you work as cooperatively. If you don’t become wealthy, it’s all an exercise in futility. If you do, then you can hopefully all decide to still keep working on this project, rather than just sell out to the people you were trying to go up against. They’ll make it REAL tempting to join them and very difficult to oppose them.
I feel like the anti-Alinsky.
Like “spending” $50 billion on the Olympics ?
The book you’ll want to read is this one:
Fabian Freeway - High Road to Socialism in the USA
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2970415/posts
There is a lot in this book that you can independently verify as accurate on your own if you are willing to invest the time by also reading Pease’s The History of the Fabian Society: (1916)
http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/13715
As well as Margaret Cole’s The Story of Fabian Socialism: (1961)
http://books.google.com/books?id=8i2sAAAAIAAJ
Both Cole and Pease were Fabians themselves (Pease, a founding member) and loved the Society, thus verifying the accuracy of much of Rose Martin’s book.
Additionally, you prefer old original sources, all of these contain original sources:
Regarding the friendly relationship and influences between progressives and fabians
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2908744/posts
How did American progressives pick up British Fabian ideas?
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2992826/posts
What is the Fabian policy of Permeation?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2952302/posts
Who founded Fabian Socialism in the United States?
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2841565/posts
I sampled: I read from Chapter 17 of that first link.
I read and read and read....
No links to Wall Street and London elite finance are indicated.
Even though it’s wading hip-deep in those people.
It’s amazing.
How such a book could go and on for so long and leave out any mention of the elite finance aspect of the story.
Are there any mentions anywhere in any of it of ties to Rockefeller/Rotschild/Morgan/etc., interests ?
If not, it’s nothing but a shameful, enormous coverup.
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