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End of sincerity? Is the constitution of the NBA to trump the Constitution of the United States?
The Peripatetic Philosopher ^ | April 30, 2014 | Dr. James R. Fisher

Posted on 04/30/2014 12:30:12 PM PDT by AZLiberty

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To: AZLiberty
I will never ever have anything to do with anything NBA again.

Not one more dime to anything that has anything to do with the NAACP.

Not one dime of my money to anyone or any company that supports Jessee Jackson in any way.

All of this is nothing more than opportunistic greed by the bottom feeders.

It will not stop until we take the money out of it.

21 posted on 04/30/2014 12:54:33 PM PDT by oldenuff2no (Citizen.)
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To: sauropod
Guessing, smesshing.

Show me the agreement he signed that has a morals clause or some other clause regarding his conduct.

I'm not guessing any more or less than you are. If the NBA doesn't have legal justification for their actions, Sterling will have no problem obtaining relief from a court of competent jurisdiction.

22 posted on 04/30/2014 12:54:50 PM PDT by xjcsa (Ridiculing the ridiculous since the day I was born.)
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To: xjcsa

I’ve heard endless talk on Sports radio about how this player wouldn’t play for him and encouraging that player or coach not to play for him.

The man has a sordid history. The signees knew this when they signed on or shortly thereafter.

All this faux outrage is precisely that.


23 posted on 04/30/2014 12:55:10 PM PDT by sauropod (Fat Bottomed Girl: "What difference, at this point, does it make?")
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24 posted on 04/30/2014 12:55:50 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: xjcsa

And he is known as a ferocious litigant. Should be fun to watch.


25 posted on 04/30/2014 12:56:02 PM PDT by sauropod (Fat Bottomed Girl: "What difference, at this point, does it make?")
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To: AZLiberty

It depends on the Bylaws, and contracts etc. that Sterling agreed to when he initially bought the team and joined the NBA, and any modifications since then.

If anything in these pertained to speech/behavior, then yes they can. Anyone can sign away their rights by agreeing to do so in a contract. So it depends on what he agreed to.


26 posted on 04/30/2014 12:56:23 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: sauropod
Can you not hear the jackals howling for him to lose everything? I distinctly recall more than one commentator stating so.

Also known as exercising their First Amendment rights. I personally have no problem with Sterling losing whatever reputation and credibility he may have had - he is a repulsive human being. As for his property - I have no problem with anyone choosing to terminate any associations they may have with him, subject to whatever contracts or agreements may be in existence.

The NBA can do what it wants. Doesn’t make it right.

If they violate their own bylaws (which Sterling would have had a voice in creating) or violate any contracts or laws, that's a problem. But if they just take available legal steps to disassociate from someone who is obviously bad for business, I don't really see the problem.

27 posted on 04/30/2014 12:58:53 PM PDT by xjcsa (Ridiculing the ridiculous since the day I was born.)
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To: sauropod

try reading the 5th amendment. it limits the power of the FEDERAL government, not private organizations like the NBA


28 posted on 04/30/2014 1:00:13 PM PDT by ghost of stonewall jackson
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To: sauropod
Please tell me where in the 5th Amendment it states...

Just like the First Amendment, the Fifth Amendment does not apply here.

29 posted on 04/30/2014 1:00:52 PM PDT by gdani (Every day, your Govt surveils you more than the day before)
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To: sauropod
To say nothing of depriving a man of his lawfully owned property and his right to enjoy his property.

As others have said, he would have had to agree by the bylaws of the NBA constitution when he purchased that property.

This is bad, really bad.

What is really bad, IMHO, is that he probably would have gotten into less trouble had he simply punched her in the mouth and kept his mouth shut.

He probably would have gotten into less trouble if he'd kept his mouth shut, went to a bar, got roaring drunk, and ran over a pedestrian out walking the dog.
30 posted on 04/30/2014 1:02:23 PM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: sauropod
I’ve heard endless talk on Sports radio about how this player wouldn’t play for him and encouraging that player or coach not to play for him. The man has a sordid history. The signees knew this when they signed on or shortly thereafter. All this faux outrage is precisely that.

He's a known asshole whom everyone who knew him already hated; that's true. I don't think it's "faux outrage" - I think it's just an opportunistic reaction to Sterling finally showing his jackassery in public in a way they feel like they can do something about.

31 posted on 04/30/2014 1:02:34 PM PDT by xjcsa (Ridiculing the ridiculous since the day I was born.)
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To: MadIsh32

I don’t know how “equal protection” applies in non-governmental situations, but I suspect that Sterling’s lawyers will make a strong case that the NBA has applied these sanctions “unfairly”. I’m sure there are plenty of glass houses among NBA owners, and they should be very cautious throwing stones at only Donald Sterling. Mark Cuban has said as much. If Sterling sues the NBA, the discovery process could be very interesting.

Donald Sterling undoubtedly harbors racists thoughts, and occasionally voices them. Bad on him. But his stupidity is the bigger issue here. Sharing a girlfriend with Magic Johnson, the one person most likely to want the LA Clippers and in the best position to profit from Sterling’s woes, shows bad judgment. Sincerely sharing his racist thoughts with said girlfriend, even in private, is dumber.


32 posted on 04/30/2014 1:02:59 PM PDT by AZLiberty (No tag today.)
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To: sauropod

Here are the NBA bylaw:
http://mediacentral.nba.com/media/mediacentral/NBA-Constitution-and-By-Laws.pdf

There is stuff in there on conduct detrimental to the league.


33 posted on 04/30/2014 1:03:02 PM PDT by discostu (Seriously, do we no longer do "phrasing"?!)
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To: ghost of stonewall jackson

You are correct in what you stipulate. So, who guarantees property rights?


34 posted on 04/30/2014 1:03:34 PM PDT by sauropod (Fat Bottomed Girl: "What difference, at this point, does it make?")
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To: mmichaels1970

It’s a pity that no one here appears to see the danger to basic property rights.


35 posted on 04/30/2014 1:04:44 PM PDT by sauropod (Fat Bottomed Girl: "What difference, at this point, does it make?")
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To: sauropod

contracts. sterling has a contract with the NBA. sterling is notorious for defending his rights in court. if the NBA is violating its contract with him (the NBA Constitution), have no fear, he will assert his rights in court


36 posted on 04/30/2014 1:08:40 PM PDT by ghost of stonewall jackson
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To: ghost of stonewall jackson

That’s what I’ve been hearing.


37 posted on 04/30/2014 1:09:34 PM PDT by sauropod (Fat Bottomed Girl: "What difference, at this point, does it make?")
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To: sauropod

there is no danger to basic property rights. if sterling did not want to obey the NBA’s rules he should not have bought a team


38 posted on 04/30/2014 1:09:47 PM PDT by ghost of stonewall jackson
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To: sauropod
It’s a pity that no one here appears to see the danger to basic property rights.

He had to agree to abide by the bylaws and NBA constitution before he made the purchase. Not everybody with a spare billion in the bank can simply purchase an NBA team or any pro franchise for that matter. For better or worse, they are vetted by the league, they agree to abide by the bylaws, and are voted on by the other owners to be given authorization to purchase the team.

If he did something that violated their constitution (which I have not read) and their constitution has a provision authorizing forced sale, then his rights have not been violated.

If he did NOT violate their constitution, or their constitution does NOT have a provision authorizing forced sale, then his rights HAVE been violated and he will win in litigation.

This is not without precedent. Ed DeBartolo was forced to give up control of the 49'ers. Marge Schott was forced out of her ownership of the Cincinnati Reds.
39 posted on 04/30/2014 1:12:19 PM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: ghost of stonewall jackson

I disagree.

Our culture these days apparently trumps property rights, justice, and morality.

I’d also like to know when the NBA’s constitution and bylaws were instituted and when Sterling bought the Clippers. Which came first?


40 posted on 04/30/2014 1:12:31 PM PDT by sauropod (Fat Bottomed Girl: "What difference, at this point, does it make?")
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