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Disk deframention
Little House on Unaka | April 9, 2014 | don-o

Posted on 04/09/2014 11:00:46 AM PDT by don-o

My laptop suddenly was less responsive. I regularly run disc cleanup and defrag, using the built in Win 7 tools. On a whim, I installed Defraggler and it shows my HD 14% fragmented.

I was stuned.


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To: don-o
My laptop suddenly was less responsive.

The word suddenly is a clue: did you one day create gigabytes of files on your laptop ? If you did not create a lot of huge files all at once, but instead used more disk space gradually over time, as is typical, then there should not "sudddenly" be a change in performance. (this is possible if you were running a database server, but you're not).

I regularly run disc cleanup and defrag, using the built in Win 7 tools. On a whim, I installed Defraggler and it shows my HD 14% fragmented.

Noticeable decrease in responsiveness because of disk fragmentation would only occur when reading or writing the disk.

Disk reads and writes tend to not to be very large for normal user PC's. The largest would typically be images/pictures. So, for example, once you've read an image file from disk and displayed it on the screen, the disk I/O is done.

If the unresponsiveness goes on pretty much all the time, i.e., your PC is just doggy, herky-jerky, etc., then you've got either malware (you picked up from a web ad, email, etc.) running and don't know it, or some of the applications you run have problems.

Is only your web browsing slow ? other applications ? or all applications ?

First off, I try disconnecting physically from the internet. Malware can sometimes be feverishly working using your internet connection. You can experiment by disconnecting the wire/cable from the internet is the sure way to stop all your network traffic.
41 posted on 04/09/2014 11:27:29 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: FredZarguna
As other have observed, the best thing you can do is get an SSD.

I have seen several suggest this. I have no clue what it is or how to follow the suggestion.

42 posted on 04/09/2014 11:27:40 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: don-o

Get an SSD, no more problems


43 posted on 04/09/2014 11:28:10 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: don-o
Got it running now, and it's saying it will take more than 1 day to complete.

Defraggler's timer is off - it gets better as it goes. It'll be an hour or two the first go around, thereafter it will be quicker.

44 posted on 04/09/2014 11:28:53 AM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: don-o

SSD is not needed for most users.

It’s a solid-state hard drive, i.e., no disk, just memory chips.


45 posted on 04/09/2014 11:29:21 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: PieterCasparzen

Thanks PC. First thing I did was run MalWarebytes quick scan. Came up clean.

I have done nothing except web surfing.

As I mentioned, she’s pretty much back to normal for responsiveness.


46 posted on 04/09/2014 11:31:22 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: don-o
It's a Solid State Disk drive. There are no platters. The drive is actually all solid state memory. Depending on numerous things, it can be 10 to 40 times faster than a hard disk.

Definitely do NOT buy this one: HP-ioDrive2-Duo-G2-IO-Accelerator-solid-state-drive-2410-GB-PCI-Expre

47 posted on 04/09/2014 11:31:39 AM PDT by FredZarguna (Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!)
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To: roamer_1

Yep. Dropped considerably - now 15 hrs to go


48 posted on 04/09/2014 11:32:35 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: don-o

Get CCleaner. It is free. It gets rid of temp files, etc. Then do the standard spyware and anti virus run. Then do a defrag.


49 posted on 04/09/2014 11:32:37 AM PDT by deadrock (I am someone else.)
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To: don-o
Have a look at a good sampling of the Samsung SSD's on this page. Samsung SSD's at Amazon
50 posted on 04/09/2014 11:33:29 AM PDT by FredZarguna (Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!)
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To: don-o

Oh G


51 posted on 04/09/2014 11:33:43 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: FredZarguna

You. Are. Killing. Me. Here.


52 posted on 04/09/2014 11:34:02 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: PieterCasparzen

Not true.


53 posted on 04/09/2014 11:34:11 AM PDT by FredZarguna (Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!)
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To: don-o

Wow, so, just out of curiosity,

of your 455G,

what are the Used and Free amounts ?


54 posted on 04/09/2014 11:39:18 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: PieterCasparzen

13% used 87 free


55 posted on 04/09/2014 11:45:17 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: don-o

I’ve been using Defraggler for years and have observed the completion time estimates swing wildly. Mine can oscillate between 15 minutes and 5 hours. I don’t pay much attention - just let it do its thing. Be sure to schedule at least one boot-time defrag also. Different versions of Defraggler have various options for free-space consolidation and moving large files to end of drive, also. But any kind of defrag is good for the stage you’re at.


56 posted on 04/09/2014 11:48:48 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture)
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To: steve86

Yes. As I said, it is back to normal for responsiveness. I am still boggled that the MS tool was obviously not doing its job very well.

Maybe I SHOULD get a Mac.

Surprised that has not been suggested.


57 posted on 04/09/2014 11:55:04 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: don-o

No fragmentation considerations with either Linux file systems or SSD.


58 posted on 04/09/2014 11:59:17 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture)
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To: don-o

If you’re running a SSD, don’t ever defrag your drive. Not only does it not make a difference, it can shorten their life.


59 posted on 04/09/2014 12:08:31 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: KoRn

I patiently read through all the replies to see if anyone mentioned this, as it would have been my advice! I heartily concur!


60 posted on 04/09/2014 12:15:31 PM PDT by DJ Frisat (Proudly providing the NSA with provocative textual content since 1995!)
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