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To: jospehm20

The following excerpt from the U.S. Constitution provides the authorization to add a new state and to “make all needful Rules and Regulations respecting the Territory or other Property belonging to the United States....”, and the secession of a State from the Union is a direct disposition of the Territory of the United States that required the consent of the Congress assembled and the States upon accession or annexation of the same State.

Constitution of the United States

Article. IV.

Section. 3.

New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.

The Congress shall have Power to dispose of and make all needful Rules and Regulations respecting the Territory or other Property belonging to the United States; and nothing in this Constitution shall be so construed as to Prejudice any Claims of the United States, or of any particular State.


11 posted on 04/01/2014 12:44:40 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: WhiskeyX

There is nothing there that prevents secession or even addresses it, only accession of states or changes within a state.


13 posted on 04/01/2014 1:11:10 AM PDT by AlmaKing
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To: WhiskeyX

“and the secession of a State from the Union is a direct disposition of the Territory of the United States”

That is the part you made up. If a state leaves the union it is no longer the territory of the United States. I see it differently than you do. I think it is ludicrous to expect a state that wants to leave the union to have to get everybody else’s permission to go their own way. Since the constitution does not mention secession, and since the 10th Amendment says powers not granted to the federal government by the Constitution, nor prohibited to the States, are reserved to the States or the people, I believe that is where the power to secede lies and states should be able to leave the union as they wish with or without the federal government’s blessing.


14 posted on 04/01/2014 1:13:09 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: WhiskeyX; jospehm20
“make all needful Rules and Regulations respecting the Territory or other Property belonging to the United States....”

Not applicable to sovereign states as it presupposes that the state is Territory or other Property belonging to the United States.

17 posted on 04/01/2014 1:53:08 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: WhiskeyX

So the US is Hotel Kalifornia?


101 posted on 04/01/2014 9:59:21 AM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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