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Greenfield: The End of Science
Sultan Knish blog ^ | Sunday, March 23, 2014 | Daniel Greenfield

Posted on 03/23/2014 2:31:54 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell

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1 posted on 03/23/2014 2:31:55 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell
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To: daisy mae for the usa; AdvisorB; wizardoz; free-in-nyc; Vendome; Georgia Girl 2; blaveda; ...

Science is being performed outside the hallowed halls of science. Science has returned to the garage and the warehouse laboratory. Once again science is grass roots. It is in the hands of independent thinkers and imaginative experimentalists. It is most explicitly not in government, industry or education.

2 posted on 03/23/2014 2:37:04 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: Louis Foxwell
I think the engineers do a very good job with technology. From computers to medical technology, we seem to be doing OK.

But, the scientists? Can they explain anything?? Even with medicine -- why does prozac work? Oh, it's a serotonin uptake inhibitor? And why does that matter? They don't know.
Cold fusion? Maybe its working, maybe its not working. How does it work? They don't know.
Global Warming? Can't measure the temperature, but you can measure CO2 so you know temperature is rising? Get serious.

No, I think science is done poorly these days. It got too ambitious and scientists began to think that they understood a lot of things that they don't understand at all.

3 posted on 03/23/2014 2:39:29 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: ClearCase_guy
Political correctness is one reason, among many. In the biological realm they are forced to pay lip service to evolution or else. In other fields, political correctness stifles real, true knowledge. Just a thought.
4 posted on 03/23/2014 2:43:46 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: Louis Foxwell

It the diffrence between using

Reason to find truth to act on

vs

Rationalization for justification of your action


5 posted on 03/23/2014 2:44:54 PM PDT by tophat9000 (Are we headed to a Cracker Slacker War?)
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To: ClearCase_guy

The politician and the government dangle research money on a stick in front of them, if you want it you must join our agenda of non fact, junk science, voodoo mystic, magical pull the rabbit out of a hat lies and non truths, ok?


6 posted on 03/23/2014 2:48:07 PM PDT by ronnie raygun (Im missing a jumbo jet with 235 passengers has anyone seen it?)
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To: Louis Foxwell

On the Science Channel, the History Channel, NatGeo, TLC, and all the so-called “Learning Channels” there is a magical phrase that makes everything they present the gospel truth.

The phrase is ubiquitous and authoritative, and covers everything from Ancient Aliens, The Nazca Lines, Stonehenge, Black Holes, Neutron Stars, The Earth, Dinosaurs, Asteroids, Weather, Ancient Man, and The Bible.

The magical phrase even has alliteration and rolls off the tongue like an incantation from a high priest.

The Phrase?

“Some Scientists Say”.


7 posted on 03/23/2014 2:53:31 PM PDT by left that other site
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To: Louis Foxwell
Sagan was often wrong, but it didn't matter because his errors were scientific, rather than ideological or theological. He could be wrong as many times as he wanted, as long as he wasn't wrong politically..

I always wondered why people (now known as the "LSM") paid attention to Sagan, especially after he went off the deep end with his "nuclear Winter" intentionally misleading numbers and information, not to mention his out right lies.

Never liked what little I saw of the original "Cosmos" for some forgotten reason, and I'll be danged if I'm going to watch something with an intro by a bigger liar and thief.

8 posted on 03/23/2014 2:56:16 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: left that other site

Four spores out of a possible five!


9 posted on 03/23/2014 2:58:32 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: Fungi

Why, Thank You!


10 posted on 03/23/2014 3:00:40 PM PDT by left that other site
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To: left that other site

OK!! Everybody pay attention!

Lesson for today:

1. The sun is 1,300,000 times as big as the earth.

2. The sun is a ball of fire that controls the climates of all its planets.

3. The earth is one of the sun’s planets.

4. The earth is a speck in comparison to the size of the sun.

5. Inhabitants of the earth are less than specks.

Study Question: How do less-than-specks in congress plan to control the sun?


11 posted on 03/23/2014 3:16:16 PM PDT by abclily
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To: Louis Foxwell
Carl Sagan was very good at one thing--saying the word "billions."

Just tried to calculate if billions of seconds have passed since he died (Dec. 20, 1996), but at 31 million seconds per year, it has only been about half a billion seconds so far.

But it has been billions of seconds since he was born.

12 posted on 03/23/2014 3:26:00 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Louis Foxwell

Bump


13 posted on 03/23/2014 3:36:43 PM PDT by Codeflier (Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama - 4 democrat presidents in a row and counting...)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Serotonin transporters removes serotonin from the synaptic cleft back into the synaptic boutons. This removes the effect of serotonin, which when present is to reduce the effects of alcoholism, OCD, depression, hypertension, and social phobias. It also increases feelings of romantic love and general contentment. We've been able to determine this through medical neuroimaging and biochemistry.

The serotonin reuptake inhibitor prevent serotonin from being removed. The general problem with people with clinical depression is that their serotonin is being removed too fast.
Cold fusion? Maybe its working, maybe its not working. How does it work? They don't know.
So far, cold fusion has not been made to work in a lab or in the field. Even though some crackpots like to claim it.
Global Warming? Can't measure the temperature, but you can measure CO2 so you know temperature is rising? Get serious.
The current temperature of the Earth is around 14.0-15.1°C, according to the World Meteorological Organization and other scientific organizations.
14 posted on 03/23/2014 3:38:08 PM PDT by GAFreedom (Freedom rings in GA!)
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To: Calvin Locke
Wasn't sure until I read your post. Cosmos was the Sagan show on TV. I probably watched it back in the day and liked him. Wasn't he the guy who said enormous over and over?

Greenfield makes some pretty quotable remarks here I thought. He exposes me as someone less glued to the tube, but I can catch on 7 replies later on FR.

Another aspect of science losing out on truth is medical science, to lawyers and huge paydays when public exposure for scientific purposes would be in the public's best interests.

Car mechanics have all kinds of information exchanges available with very detailed trial and error information. We'll need to force the free flow of scientific truth against the will of our political parties. The people. Left, right or whatever need to rein in this government.

15 posted on 03/23/2014 3:39:43 PM PDT by WhoisAlanGreenspan?
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To: abclily

Indeed! :-)


16 posted on 03/23/2014 3:43:23 PM PDT by left that other site
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To: WhoisAlanGreenspan?
"A scientist who does not utilize the scientific method is as much use as a carpenter who cannot make chairs or a plumber who cannot fix toilets.
A science that exists as a fixed absolute, whose premises are not to be questioned, whose data is not to be examined and whose conclusions are not to be debated, is a pile of wood or a leaky toilet.
Not the conclusion of a process, but its absence."

17 posted on 03/23/2014 3:45:20 PM PDT by WhoisAlanGreenspan?
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To: abclily
6. Gravity rules on earth.
18 posted on 03/23/2014 3:47:57 PM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum -- "The Taliban is inside the building")
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To: Louis Foxwell

Settled science is whatever the highest bidder says it is.

I turned off this new cosmos when I heard, “where did Brutus celebrate his discovery? In jail of course.” That alone told me what this was going to be.


19 posted on 03/23/2014 3:57:17 PM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: Louis Foxwell
This guy is fast becoming my favorite blogger. He needs a bigger stage. Anyhoo...

'Science' is a religion for the young, arrogant atheist addicted to technology. It is a shame they can not see the irony in their latest, favorite phrase that's making the rounds of the Internet: "Science, Bitches!"

The corruption of the medium extends to the corruption of the word itself. In the 60s through the 80s a "nerd" or a even "geek" (non chicken biting) brought up visions of book smart, but socially inept, introverts engaged in scientific endeavors. Now, perhaps with the complete failure of the education system, it is merely someone that likes comics, video games, television shows, movies, music and books that merely hint about science, fantasy, or technology. The nerds of the 70s BUILT something! The nerds of this generation mostly consume like the Pakleds in season 2 (episode 17) of Star Trek: The Next Generation, titled "Samaritan Snare". (sorry)

I'm sorry, but watching The Big Bang Theory and posting a meme based on what Neil Degrasse Tyson said on Bill Maher's show does not make you a true nerd, or a lover, or someone who "groks" science.

This is a new, ironic "science": A religion where the 'priests' (scientists) abandon the "scripture" and "commandments", i.e., tradition, and replace it with humanism/agenda driven politics. And it's churchgoers are just as uneducated, ignorant, and closed minded as they claim "non believers" (Christians) to be.

20 posted on 03/23/2014 3:57:36 PM PDT by Captainpaintball
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