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To: FredZarguna
It'll really blow your mind to know that the 4th amendment didn't apply to the states until the 20th century. However, free citizens in every state made damn sure that state law enforcement had similar requirements for a warrant. The supreme court federalized it, and then set forth the punishment for violations, all without legislation.

You can check my posts, I am not a fan of what cops are doing these days by any means. People need to bring them under control. However, the left wing judges who let murderers go free because some cop didn't do it right weren't doing it to protect us, or civil liberties. They were doing it as part of a leftist, decades long effort to destroy the US, one left wing goal at a time. The decisions on the exclusionary rule were wrong. Get rid of it now, however, and you may just see the jackboots go hog wild. The proper response is to pass some very severe laws punishing violations of civil rights by law enforcement, to make sure they are enforced, and provide private rights for those who are harmed. Do that, and the purpose for the exclusionary rule, to deter bad acts by cops, no longer exists. At that point, it becomes a lot easier to deny a murderer freedom just because the cop made a warrantless search that leads him to a dead child.

115 posted on 03/15/2014 2:05:16 PM PDT by Defiant (Let the Tea Party win, and we will declare peace on the American people and go home.)
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To: Defiant
It could hardly "blow my mind," since I make the very point that the Exclusionary Rule was not incorporated Federal case law until the 1920's elsewhere on this thread. The original system, which was what existed in the Common Law [and what you are advocating we revert to] did not work. Period.

The rest of your post is nonsense.

We have clear cases of law enforcement exceeding their authority already, in full possession of the fact that their actions will make their case impossible to successfully conclude, and now you actually want to revert to the angels of their better nature to enforce "strict civil rights laws" against ... themselves?

So your contention is that we should reward people who are currently engaged in what is criminal behavior by awarding them with enforcement of those very standards.

Please have some coffee or get some sleep, or something, and come back to post when you're sober.

117 posted on 03/15/2014 2:15:51 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!)
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