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To: noinfringers2

“I do take Stanley Ann Dunham to be Obama’s mother.”

There is plenty of evidence that Stanley Ann is Barry’s mom and NO evidence that any other woman is his mom that I have seen.

I even started a thread inviting submission of any trace of evidence against Stanley Ann and for any other woman, such as the Lebanese actress, Valerie Sarruf.

Here is that thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2913366/posts

“For several years now a shadowy coterie of FReepers styling themselves as “researchers” has gone onto nearly every FR eligibility thread to aggressively refute all evidence that Stanley Ann Dunham was Barack Obama’s mother. They have actually declared flat out that she was never in Hawaii before 1963, contrary to the voluminous evidence including INS FOIA documents!

“Requests for links or any evidence that Stanley Ann is NOT the mom have been frequently met with abusive ad hominem attacks and accompanied by claims that ALL documentary evidence showing her to have been in Hawaii in 1960 and 1961 is forged, but no credible evidence of forgery has offered. I make this observation as a retired Certified Fraud Examiner and CPA.”


64 posted on 02/20/2014 6:01:08 PM PST by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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65 posted on 02/20/2014 6:23:44 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Seizethecarp
I agree. I posted the below theory awhile ago, and got laughed at, because I believe the SAD is most likely his actual mom. I did not get any responses indicating where my theory is incorrect. I'd still like to hear rational criticism of the below theory, not just "you're crazy to still believe that SAD is Jr's mother".

I believe in the principle of Occam's razor, and therefore find it hard to get caught up in all the coverups, particularly when I find them not necessary.

This is what I believe to be a likely scenario, and it requires no modifying of INS records, or newspaper microfiche.

Stanley Ann was described in high school by her classmates, as a "fellow traveler", one stated that Stanley Ann once told her "she didn't need a man to have a baby". While I don't give much credence to second hand accounts directly, I do think they have value as corroborative evidence. And I'm therefore believing that Stanley Ann was a bit rebellious.

* After high school, Stanley Ann goes to Chicago and spends the summer of 1960 working as an au pair.

* Stanley Ann becomes pregnant while in Chicago.

* Stanely, and Madelyn decide to move to Hawaii.

* Stanley Ann decides to move back to Seattle. She leaves Hawaii after she finishes the fall 1960 semester.

To add a little bit to the Seattle->Chicago->Hawaii->Seattle movements of Stanley Ann, I think it helps to explain that while Stanley and Madelyn were Marxists, Stanley Ann went past that to the radical stage.

I believe that SAD's radicalism led to her desire to be in Chicago. I also believe that even though they were small 'c' communists, they did not approve of how radical she had become. So, after she became pregnant, and to get her away from the radicals, Stanley decided to get her away from Chicago, and even away from Seattle, so they decided to move to Hawaii. But Stanley Ann was too radicalized, she would not stay in Hawaii, and so a compromise was made, and she was allowed to move back to Seattle - more radical than Hawaii, but not so much so as Chicago.



* In March or April, either because of her rebellious nature, or for economic reasons, Stanley Ann crosses the border, and gives birth. Because she does not need a man, or she simply does not know the answer, she does not name a father.

* Only after the birth she finds out she has a problem - because 1) the birth is in Canada, 2) she did not list a father, and 3) she is only 18, the baby does not acquire US Citizenship.

* Between April, and August, Stanley, and Madelyn come up with a plan. They will claim that Stanley's baby was born in Hawaii, as a home birth. In case there is an investigation of the facts of the birth, they ask Obama Sr to allow them to use him as the father. And tell him, if anyone asks, all he has to do is tell them yes, he's the father. This results in the confusing INS documentation - when he's asked, he says he's the father, but sometimes when filling out forms (because he doesn't want to go to jail for the Dunhams), he does not claim Jr.

* With Sr backing them, the Dunham's register the birth in August. They had to wait long enough for the timing to allow for the facts they were presenting.

* The above scenario results in the birth announcements being generated in the newspapers, and the INS documentation. It also explains Obama's complete lack of interest in both Stanley Ann (he never lived with her), and Jr (his lack of claiming him as a son on his INS forms). *Note* that lack of interest may have changed when he was afraid that his visa was not going to be extended, and he thought he was going to be deported.

* It also explains the fake BC, and Hawaii officials willing to state that Obama does have a Hawaii bc, and Tim Adams claim of no hospital generated BC. He has a Hawaii bc, but if it was to be released, and it showed a home birth, that might be enough to get a real investigation started. One that might find 'universe shattering' evidence.



In the above scenario, the 'universe shattering' information that would result is that not only is Obama not a US Natural Born Citizen, but he may not have naturalized, and therefore may not even be a US Citizen. It also allows for two comments that I have always kept in the back of my head. First, I remember a Republican politician once saying (I can't remember who), the reason why they weren't challenging Obama on his eligibility, was because "we aren't going to go after him, just because he doesn't know who his daddy is". It also meshes with the comment from the CCP, that "there is no evidence of Obama in Hawaii before 1963" - that is the time that SAD moved back to Hawaii from Seattle.
74 posted on 02/21/2014 8:18:52 AM PST by MMaschin
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To: Seizethecarp

The jokes on you.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3052914/posts?page=40#40


94 posted on 02/21/2014 1:40:21 PM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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