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To: PieterCasparzen

But all broken links, here.

If one wishes to see what was in actuality going on, one has to go digging. So no thanks.

The list as it is, doesn't look all that bad. Standards for journalists --- are you against such things?

In another post you go on about America assassinating someone (but don't say who) but seem to forget the 50+ journalists who investigated Russia's own down-to-the-bone GUILT of just about every charge you try to hurl at Western interests, trying to shift all blame on "Soros".

I ask again --- are you really THAT simple (minded)?

Or are the Russians paying you to steer public opinion on open forums, in the West.

You are mostly all heat -- and little to no light.

This kind of self-justification BS;

shows you are either wack-a-doodle, a simpleton, or in some manner in the thrall of Russian syndicate.

28 posted on 02/19/2014 6:55:07 PM PST by BlueDragon
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To: BlueDragon
50+ journalist killed by Russian syndicate/business interests, I meant to say...

But the US shot who? -- Osama Bin Laden?

If you really do have something significant to say, clam down, bring clear evidence --- stop this mindless hurling of accusation, and all the ceaseless innuendo.

29 posted on 02/19/2014 6:59:44 PM PST by BlueDragon
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To: BlueDragon
But all broken links, here.

If one wishes to see what was in actuality going on, one has to go digging. So no thanks.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Renaissance_Foundation

The list as it is, doesn't look all that bad. Standards for journalists --- are you against such things?

2013 - just for an example:

Civil society impact on EU-Ukraine relations [20 grants]
Freedom of movement between Ukraine and the EU [10 grants]
Integration among civil societies of Ukraine and the EU [5 grants]
Developing professional journalism on European integration in Ukraine [10 grants]

45 out of 51 grants are given to projects having to do with moving towards the EU.

It's not honest to say 2013 for the IRF was about "standards for journalists"; it seems obvious that the IRF is about joining the EU.

Or are the Russians paying you to steer public opinion on open forums, in the West.

No, I don't work for the Russians or any other government.

This kind of self-justification BS;

Why would have have something against Ukrainians if I don’t support the idea of a CIA/State Dept/Soros-lead coup taking over the country ?

shows you are either wack-a-doodle, a simpleton, or in some manner in the thrall of Russian syndicate.


I'd hardly call it BS. I would not like it if foreigners came to America and incited a rebellion that wound up changing our government. How can I support the US government - or some wealthy elites that have residences in America - doing the same thing elsewhere ?

In time of declared War, one could make the argument for taking actions that are still ethical but perhaps might appear drastic. War must be fought righteously. Ukraine has not threatened any other nations at all; this is purely a power struggle.

Why can't governments use some sense; if you want to entice a nation into your economic circle - simply do it through superb deal making. Simply lay offers on the table. Make great deals with neighboring countries, get the competition going.
35 posted on 02/19/2014 8:45:42 PM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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